My bulking macros look nothing like what websites recommend and people say

**MMA_Influenced** · 01-22-2017, 12:39 PM

Im very confused by online bulking macros that are listed (especially with steroids ). I would grow huge and fat on the amount of calories that are recommended I eat each day.

People say 1.5g-2g protein per pound. Fine. But the only way to make that work and not get fat while eating 1.5g per pound is to have literally less carbs per meal than protein.

If I eat 1.5 grams per pound of protein I would only be able to eat 1.1grams of carbs per pound of carbs.

I think I respond strongly to carbs its very strange. I see some people who weigh what I weigh bulking on 5k calories a day and maintaining on 4k. Guys I got news for you I did a bulk at 4000 calories a day on a 30/50/20 split and I gained 5 pounds a week on cycle.

Im just saying.. 5 pounds a week is way too much gaining (and it wasnt water I was on Tren )

I mean.. I am vastly different than anyone else Im reading about and their diet. Can someone enlighten me on this? Is anyone else like me out there?

Im literally planning a cycle now where Im shooting for 2 pounds a week of bodyweight gain and Im starting at 3000 calories. I want to try this 1.5 grams per pound of protein but to make that happen and fit my meal plan Im literally out eating the carbs which is way different than any meal plan I put together before.

I wanted to up the protein because I wanted to see how I would gain on cycle with more protein (Im thinking probably more)

**01dragonslayer** · 01-22-2017, 12:55 PM

You need to remember that these are 'suggestions'. Everyone's metabolism is different and what may work one may not work for another. Unfortunately its a trail & error process which can be timely when either bulking or cutting.

**MMA_Influenced** · 01-22-2017, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer

You need to remember that these are 'suggestions'. Everyone's metabolism is different and what may work one may not work for another. Unfortunately its a trail & error process which can be timely when either bulking or cutting.

Thanks. I see that now. I guess the only part that is somewhat suprising is how different I am than most of you.

What Id be curious to know is if someone like me who can bulk on 3000 calories.. what does that mean for my gains. Do people like that get similar gains or slower? Not sure anyone knows. The human body is clearly an inexact science... I just think its funny that the "suggestions" were responsible for me putting on 30 pounds in 6 weeks. Luckily I was on Tren and dieted a bit and cut down fast and still ended the cycle very lean.

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-22-2017, 03:54 PM

When I bulk, I eat more carbs than protein. I don't gain a lot of fat either on a 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fats bulking diet. Some of the variables are; caloric burn per workout, cardio, activity throughout the day, etc. Not an exact science for sure but the recommendations are a good baseline to start from.

**MMA_Influenced** · 01-22-2017, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

When I bulk, I eat more carbs than protein. I don't gain a lot of fat either on a 50% carbs, 30% protein, 20% fats bulking diet. Some of the variables are; caloric burn per workout, cardio, activity throughout the day, etc. Not an exact science for sure but the recommendations are a good baseline to start from.

I work with computers for a living so other than my work in the gym im very sedentary. In this situation Id probably be okay lowering carbs and keeping the protein right? I dunno

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-23-2017, 10:20 AM

You need to calculate your TDEE. MBR * Activity Rate = TDEE. Your lifestyle, exercise, and daily activity is "Activity Rate" in the equation. As long as you consider your lifestyle in the TDEE calculation, the rule of thumb should still apply. I'm a computer geek also. By adjusting my diet and training I still look like my avatar.

**TimRun** · 01-23-2017, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

You need to calculate your TDEE. MBR * Activity Rate = TDEE. Your lifestyle, exercise, and daily activity is "Activity Rate" in the equation. As long as you consider your lifestyle in the TDEE calculation, the rule of thumb should still apply. I'm a computer geek also. By adjusting my diet and training I still look like my avatar.

As a computer geek, Do you consider your Activity Reat as Sedentary (1.2)? or depending on your exercise activity (Moderately active "1.55" or very active "1.75"?

I'm also training for 6 days/week (lifting & cardio) but the rest of my day is very Sedentary, so I confused, should I consider my Activity Rate as Sedentary or Moderately Active, or something between both?

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-23-2017, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by TimRun

As a computer geek, Do you consider your Activity Reat as Sedentary (1.2)? or depending on your exercise activity (Moderately active "1.55" or very active "1.75"?

I'm also training for 6 days/week (lifting & cardio) but the rest of my day is very Sedentary, so I confused, should I consider my Activity Rate as Sedentary or Moderately Active, or something between both?

I train hard 6 days a week, 1.5hrs to 2 hrs each session, 20 minutes of bag work for cardio a couple of times a week. I would consider that 1.7.

**Deal Me In** · 01-23-2017, 06:31 PM

Everybody's different. I find that when I go above 4000/kcal I start to gain to much fat for my liking. Yes, I still gain weight but I don't like to put on fat. I try and stay around 3500/kcal for this reason. When I cut I go down to 3000/kcal.

You have to find what works for your body and what you are comfortable with. I read that when the really big guys bulk they don't care about fat. Offseason for example. So they just pump up the calories and worry about cutting the fat later. That works for them.

Since I don't compete, I prefer to keep my body fat in check and sacrifice gains. This is a trade off I'm comfortable with. You have to find what works for you.

**Deal Me In** · 01-23-2017, 06:32 PM

Also, this is why I always chuckle when people come on here and talk about wanting to do a lean bulk. I've tried many times over the years and never accomplished this. I either bulk or I cut. I've never figured out how to do both and I believe it is very difficult for most people. Pick one and get after it.

**MMA_Influenced** · 01-24-2017, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Deal Me In

Everybody's different. I find that when I go above 4000/kcal I start to gain to much fat for my liking. Yes, I still gain weight but I don't like to put on fat. I try and stay around 3500/kcal for this reason. When I cut I go down to 3000/kcal.

You have to find what works for your body and what you are comfortable with. I read that when the really big guys bulk they don't care about fat. Offseason for example. So they just pump up the calories and worry about cutting the fat later. That works for them.

Since I don't compete, I prefer to keep my body fat in check and sacrifice gains. This is a trade off I'm comfortable with. You have to find what works for you.

See yeah that probably works for them because I bet they are on cycle year round. If I bulk like a nut Ill end up having a ton of work to do when it comes time to cut. Ive seen most people shoot for 2 pounds a week for a cut to ensure not losing muscle. Thats 10 weeks work right there if you gain 20 pounds.. then again maybe thats the point.. something to do inbetween cycles.. cut for the next one. Hmm.. If rather just bulk at a decent rate/keep myself looking in shape than losing my definition half the year. Id rather just do maintenance then go that route.

**Marsoc** · 01-24-2017, 07:59 PM

Yeah I wonder since I'm an easy gainer ..if I don't eat as much as a hard gainer will I get the same results in general. Cuz if I eat a shit ton I will start getting pretty heavy. I'm already at 210lbs and I eat probably 3000 calories a day roughly. I'm still trying to figure out the proper diet science for my body ..but I def try to keep it lean and little carbs except for before and after workouts .. I'm def exited to see what the results will be after or during my first cycle coming up