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    Microdosing Winstrool V

    Can’t find much about microdosing testosterone much less V on the web…

    I have been microdosing Winstrol V for a couple of weeks now, 5 mg a day taken through the wrist transdermally with DMSO. I feel great, young, horny, energy all day and night, etc. I am 38 and have medium testosterone levels , but am just using this as a little boost to get back in shape. Do you think I will experience any negative side effects with this little amount over time or if I stop?

    What is the maximum time I should microdose this, if I need to take a break, for how long?

    Thanks! (mature responses only please, paha)

    Update: my penis and testicles seem to have gotten fuller.
    And, the first week felt like Superman, but the second week feels like I am emotionally unstable, of course there could be many others life factors involved.

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    With transdermal testosterone it would be minimally suppressive since testosterone has a half life of about 10minutes.
    Thus it would be out of your system almost immediately after absorption from the skin has stopped. Winstrol on the other hand is C17 methylated and has a much longer half life, let's say 9hours.
    While winstrol is less supressive than test, since its not converted to estrogen, the transdermal delivery system will still provide blood levels of stanozolol for long after it has been absorbed.
    With 5mg a day with DMSO, (I'm not sure how much will be absorbed, but letsfoe arguments sake say all of it is)
    then you have 5mg in you at day 1, at day 2, 2,6 half lives has gone by in 24 hours, let's round that to 2,5 half lives. That means 5, 2,5, 1,25, 0,93mg is left +5mg again. So at day 2 you're at about 6mg stanozolol in your system.
    6, 3, 1,5 ; 1,125+5mg on day 3 (6,125mg)

    From my calculations you'll reach steady state levels at 6,15mg stanozolol in your system.
    That's not enough to cause complete shutdown, I would think.
    But it is enough to cause some reduction in natural T.

    I wouldn't run this micro dose indefinitely, but say you take 2 weeks break every 3 weeks, and ill suspect you'll be fine.
    Ofcourse, your best option is to do blood tests.
    Test for LH, FSH, total T and free T, SHBG, and E2.
    (Check the lipid profile and liver enzymes now and then too)

    If you see that your T levels don't diminish while doing this, then the only other concern is the effect on health like lipids (cholesterol) and liver enzymes.

    Using AAS in micro doses as a "tonic" of sorts is an intriguing idea.
    I'd very much like to hear how it goes, but it's very important u follow up with regular blood work when doing this.

    It will also be interesting to see whether you'll actually get any benefit out of it in the longer run.

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    Pretty sure that stanozolol 's molecular weight is too high for decent transdermal absorption. You're experiencing a placebo effect.

    Even with 100% absorption, a guy would barely notice 5mg of winstrol .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    With transdermal testosterone it would be minimally suppressive since testosterone has a half life of about 10minutes.
    Thus it would be out of your system almost immediately after absorption from the skin has stopped. Winstrol on the other hand is C17 methylated and has a much longer half life, let's say 9hours.
    While winstrol is less supressive than test, since its not converted to estrogen, the transdermal delivery system will still provide blood levels of stanozolol for long after it has been absorbed.
    With 5mg a day with DMSO, (I'm not sure how much will be absorbed, but letsfoe arguments sake say all of it is)
    then you have 5mg in you at day 1, at day 2, 2,6 half lives has gone by in 24 hours, let's round that to 2,5 half lives. That means 5, 2,5, 1,25, 0,93mg is left +5mg again. So at day 2 you're at about 6mg stanozolol in your system.
    6, 3, 1,5 ; 1,125+5mg on day 3 (6,125mg)

    From my calculations you'll reach steady state levels at 6,15mg stanozolol in your system.
    That's not enough to cause complete shutdown, I would think.
    But it is enough to cause some reduction in natural T.

    I wouldn't run this micro dose indefinitely, but say you take 2 weeks break every 3 weeks, and ill suspect you'll be fine.
    Ofcourse, your best option is to do blood tests.
    Test for LH, FSH, total T and free T, SHBG, and E2.
    (Check the lipid profile and liver enzymes now and then too)

    If you see that your T levels don't diminish while doing this, then the only other concern is the effect on health like lipids (cholesterol) and liver enzymes.

    Using AAS in micro doses as a "tonic" of sorts is an intriguing idea.
    I'd very much like to hear how it goes, but it's very important u follow up with regular blood work when doing this.

    It will also be interesting to see whether you'll actually get any benefit out of it in the longer run.
    So test transdermal is not suppressive?

    So test base suspension is not suppressive either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    So test transdermal is not suppressive?

    So test base suspension is not suppressive either?
    Within reason.
    When using Testogel, which is basically testosterone base in ethanol and a polymer, about 10% is absorbed.
    So 50mg Testogel gives about 5mg systemic test.
    At that amount it's minimally supressive.

    Test. Base would be another story, but let's say in theory, the test was out of your body in 5hours, then yeah, it wouldn't really shut u down.
    Problem is, test base isn't gonna be out of your system in 5 hours, it's probably gonna linger all day, and then it will be supressive.

    As for me saying winstrol with DMSO would yield 100% absorption, that was just a thought experiment. Sorry for not being more clear.
    DMSO makes compounds that are not normally transdermally effective become so, but 100% asborbtion is a dream.

    If one were to try mini dosing as the OP suggested, then use it orally.
    Still, not so sure there would be any point at all doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Pretty sure that stanozolol 's molecular weight is too high for decent transdermal absorption. You're experiencing a placebo effect.

    Even with 100% absorption, a guy would barely notice 5mg of winstrol.
    Do you forget the old 2mg Zambon winstrol tabs?
    (Not arguing the placebo effects as such, as I'm not sure how much will be absorbed with DMSO, but it sure won't be 100%)

    If nothing else, it I'd think even just 2mg might lower SHBG some.
    Don't forget that normal man may have production of about 5-7mg T each day.

    But just to make this clear, as I see I haven't already;

    What the OP is doing or want to do,
    Doesn't make sense to me.
    I was in a very theoretical mood when I answered.
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    Doc you need a disclaimer on the bottom of all your posts. lol. the following may be genius or I may be high as fuck and talking out of may ass. proceed at your own risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Pretty sure that stanozolol 's molecular weight is too high for decent transdermal absorption. You're experiencing a placebo effect.

    Even with 100% absorption, a guy would barely notice 5mg of winstrol.

    I have never liked transdermals (poor absorption,,messy)
    You MAY notice a slight effect with 5mg orally,,but I highly doubt you will with a transdermal.

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    Can you take injectable winstrol orally? like just dropping a couple of drops into your mouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by borguthwilfried View Post
    Can you take injectable winstrol orally? like just dropping a couple of drops into your mouth?
    Yes ofcourse, it's a c17 methylated steroid . It's active orally.
    But why though? The injectable works better IMO, and will contain preservatives not needed in tablets.
    But if you have winstrol that's past expiration date then drink it.

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