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    Signs of gyno?

    Im 4 weeks into a test e cycle and have had zero side affects and demolishing current personal records by the day. However today during my chest workout i noticed i could see my nipples through my tank top. No lumps and the nipples feel maybe just a little tender but that could have been from the muscle pump. Been doing this cycle by the book with 25mg of aromasin eod. Nolva on hand for pct if i have to break into it early. So. Hard nips a sign of gyno or just a massive chest pump? Lol

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    Happens to me after surfing. Nips get scratched while laying on the board, takes days to go back to normal.

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    Gyno is a hard lump. your hormones are elevated thats why you feel puffy. In a week or 2 You should get blood work to see if your ai is at the right spot. You can use 10mg nolva a day to block your recepters if you like.

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    You using hcg?

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    My nolva is 50mg tablets. I guess i could try to split it into 1/4's? Would i continue taking nolva daily thru the rest of the cycle
    Or just until the sides go away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    You using hcg?
    Yes 250iu twice a week

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    If you're taking 500mg/week of test you should be taking 12.5mg of aromasin twice a day with dietary fats.

    Hard nipples are not a sign of gyno.

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    Yes use a razor to cut the tablet in quarters or just bite a chunk off.
    You can use nolva for your duration if you like. I had my glands cut out years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    If you're taking 500mg/week of test you should be taking 12.5mg of aromasin twice a day with dietary fats.

    Hard nipples are not a sign of gyno.
    I have 25mg capsules so i couldnt split them. I also have some liquid stane from rui i could do 12.5 mg of that if you think id be better off. I was worried about crushing my estro. And i always take my aromasin with a scoop of peanut butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Yes use a razor to cut the tablet in quarters or just bite a chunk off.
    You can use nolva for your duration if you like. I had my glands cut out years ago.
    I have a pill cutter I'll give it a shot. Do you have gnarly scars? Battle wounds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    I have a pill cutter I'll give it a shot. Do you have gnarly scars? Battle wounds!
    No not really you would never know if i did not tell you

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    Make sure you get your mid cycle blood work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Make sure you get your mid cycle blood work
    I'll go this week. I live in new york so bloodwork is only allowed by prescription. So i dont even know what im gonna tell the doc. Hopefully i can just request a e2 panel without getting interrogated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    I have 25mg capsules so i couldnt split them. I also have some liquid stane from rui i could do 12.5 mg of that if you think id be better off. I was worried about crushing my estro. And i always take my aromasin with a scoop of peanut butter.
    Imo AIs from a research company are not worth the risk.

    I would use an AI from a trusted UGL over a research company any day.

    Aromasin inhibits a percentage of e2 making it close to impossible to crush your estrogen using it as an AI while on cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Imo AIs from a research company are not worth the risk.

    I would use an AI from a trusted UGL over a research company any day.

    Aromasin inhibits a percentage of e2 making it close to impossible to crush your estrogen using it as an AI while on cycle.
    Im waiting on some balkan pharms aromasin from ashop. I got the rui just as a backup. Ai's are hard to find in my area at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    I'll go this week. I live in new york so bloodwork is only allowed by prescription. So i dont even know what im gonna tell the doc. Hopefully i can just request a e2 panel without getting interrogated.
    Same as in australia. I have to go to the doctor to get my referal to the blood place. Just tell them that you want a full hormone panel because you suffer from ED and it has been slowly getting worse. Tell them your always weak and tired and you want blood work to see if you need to see and endo.

    A doctor has a duty of care to help you. Its only a blood test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Same as in australia. I have to go to the doctor to get my referal to the blood place. Just tell them that you want a full hormone panel because you suffer from ED and it has been slowly getting worse. Tell them your always weak and tired and you want blood work to see if you need to see and endo.

    A doctor has a duty of care to help you. Its only a blood test.
    Yep exactly what i did when i first got bloodwork to get a baseline before my cycle. I guess i could go to another doc and try that again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Yep exactly what i did when i first got bloodwork to get a baseline before my cycle. I guess i could go to another doc and try that again
    Dont you guys have a user pay system? So the doctors want you to keep coming back so they get paid? If i had to pay to see a doctor and he did not give me the service i wanted(with in reason) I would walk out and not pay. Thats a total shakedown and bad service. Over here the tax payer pays for it. So doctors dont give a fuck they will write a script for anything(with in reason)

    Here have some xanax, have some valum, have some cialis. I even got pharmgrade arimidex because i had gyno so he gave me a script for arimidex while i waited for my gyno surgery.

    Have you ever bought arimidex from a pharmacy as a bloke? Awkward. The lady working there was like this is for breast cancer women. I was like just look at the script mate give me the goods. Hahaha
    Last edited by Euroholic; 01-25-2017 at 06:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Im 4 weeks into a test e cycle and have had zero side affects and demolishing current personal records by the day. However today during my chest workout i noticed i could see my nipples through my tank top. No lumps and the nipples feel maybe just a little tender but that could have been from the muscle pump. Been doing this cycle by the book with 25mg of aromasin eod. Nolva on hand for pct if i have to break into it early. So. Hard nips a sign of gyno or just a massive chest pump? Lol
    Gyno usually appears as itchy,,painful,,sore area around the nipples.

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    Is there any drawback to taking a small dose of nolva throughout a cycle to prevent gyno? If its that easy im surprised its not just one of those things that should always be included, like hcg and an AI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Is there any drawback to taking a small dose of nolva throughout a cycle to prevent gyno? If its that easy im surprised its not just one of those things that should always be included, like hcg and an AI
    Yes, if taken with anastrozole, it reduces effectivnes of both.

    It also slams estrogen low. And estrogen is needed to build muscle. Same as test, also it helps joints.

    Fwiw, if stick to taking only an ai or nolva, not both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    Is there any drawback to taking a small dose of nolva throughout a cycle to prevent gyno? If its that easy im surprised its not just one of those things that should always be included, like hcg and an AI
    Sure you can take nolva through the a cycle.

    However, it's silly to take a drug if there's no need.

    Imo get your AI dose straightened out then get a blood test that includes estradiol, preferably sensitive estradiol lc/ms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Yes, if taken with anastrozole, it reduces effectivnes of both.

    It also slams estrogen low. And estrogen is needed to build muscle. Same as test, also it helps joints.

    Fwiw, if stick to taking only an ai or nolva, not both.
    Nolva reduces the effectiveness of stane and lowers estrogen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    Nolva reduces the effectiveness of stane and lowers estrogen?
    From what ive read, Ai's make nolva less effective at blocking/reducing estrogen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    From what ive read, Ai's make nolva less effective at blocking/reducing estrogen
    Nolva does not reduce circulating e2 and is unaffected by AIs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post

    Nolva does not reduce circulating e2 and is unaffected by AIs.
    The little paper that come with nolva says AI's and nolva are not good.

    ARIMIDEX should not be taken with tamoxifen or estrogen-containing therapies"

    http://www.arimidex-us.com/index.aspx


    "At a median follow-up of 33 months, the combination of ARIMIDEX and tamoxifen did not demonstrate any efficacy benefit when compared with tamoxifen in all patients as well as in the hormone receptor-positive subpopulation. This treatment arm was discontinued from the trial. Based on clinical and pharmacokinetic results from the ATAC trial, tamoxifen should not be administrated with anastrozole."

    It further states that,

    "Co-administration of anastrozole and tamoxifen resulted in a reduction of anastrozole plasma levels by 27% compared with those achieved with anastozole alone. Estrogen containing therapies should not be used with ARIMIDEX as they may diminish pharmacologic action."

    http://www1.astrazeneca-us.com/pi/arimidex.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    The little paper that come with nolva says AI's and nolva are not good.
    ...
    All those studies were done on postmenopausal women with breast cancer.
    Last edited by numbere; 01-26-2017 at 07:00 PM.

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