Test is Test, Tren is Tren they say

[Hydrolex]

I know Tren is Tren, and Test is Test, but for whatever reasons I get much better results from 400mgs of Tren Ace, than 600mgs of Tren E. It's just not me, there are a lot of people who prefer Tren A over E even tho Tren is Tren.

So I always ran Test E 500mg, but tried 300mg of TP and wow. I just liked it much better than TE. So again Test is Test, but I might be tripping

[jstone]

Test is test, and tren is tren. Even though there the exact same compound with different esters attached you will respond better to certain esters. Shorter esters also have more hormone per ml when you take ester weight into account. This is one reason short esters can work better for those who can handle them.

[01dragonslayer]

This may help......

Thought this might help those who, like me, cycle by calculating the actual amount of active hormone per 100mg instead of just the drug and ester, 400mg of test prop gives you more active testosterone than a longer ester than say the undecanoate ester. (20% difference!)

Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate : 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate : 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg

Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg

Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg

Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg

Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg

Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

[DocToxin8]

I know what you mean. I've ran test prop over a period lately (beginning to ease over to enanthate again now), and it does hit me harder.
When using 100mg TP EOD, which is 350mg week, it felt as strong as 500mg test e, or actually it would be hard to really compare the two.
So the ester accounts more than one might initially suspect.

On the other hand though, cypionate , enanthate, decanoate, hex, all feel the same to me. Once you reach into the phenylpropionate length, it all feels basically the same to me.

Acetate and propionate also felt pretty similar, though its difficult to compare directly since I'm comparing test prop with tren ace, which are two different compounds. But I'm just trying to compare how long I felt they were active in my system.

But while test prop hit me harder, TE feels much smoother. So they each have their own advantages. Also easy to gain more water on TE.

As for test base (suspension), when I first tried it I felt like;
"This has to be the moonshine version of test!"
The suspension smelled distinctly and heavily, it gave a sting when injected (probably lots of preservatives & maybe alcohol),
and i could taste it in my mouth, even with subQ injects.
it felt like a rush within 30minutes and was very noticeable at the gym.
I would actually prefer suspension to halotestin as a booster,
(Errr, let me think on that one....)
and it was in many ways almost like another compound than test.
(The suspension I used was micronized, the particles were small enough to be easily injected with a insulin syringe. Bigger particles mean longer half life)

So yeah, you got a valid point there.

But in the end though, test is test.

[Obs]

This may help......

Thought this might help those who, like me, cycle by calculating the actual amount of active hormone per 100mg instead of just the drug and ester, 400mg of test prop gives you more active testosterone than a longer ester than say the undecanoate ester. (20% difference!)

Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate : 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate : 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg

Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg

Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg

Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg

Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg

Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

Cool post.