Cycle Question

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 03:36 PM

Ok guys I need some advice I am considering doing the following cycle:

TEST E 250/week 16 Wks
DECA 150/week 12 Wks (For shoulder recovery)
Arimidex 6.25 mg EOD

Since both are low doses can I can I continue the following:

TEST E 250/week 16 Wks
TREN E 200/week 12 Wks
Arimidex 6.25 mg EOD

Will I need to do PCT in between the two cycles or can I go straight into my next cycle with no PCT? Thoughts please. 210lbs 20% BF 49 yrs old

**Obs** · 01-31-2017, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002

Ok guys I need some advice I am considering doing the following cycle:

TEST E 250/week 16 Wks
DECA 150/week 12 Wks (For shoulder recovery)
Arimidex 6.25 mg EOD

Since both are low doses can I can I continue the following:

TEST E 250/week 16 Wks
TREN E 200/week 12 Wks
Arimidex 6.25 mg EOD

Will I need to do PCT in between the two cycles or can I go straight into my next cycle with no PCT? Thoughts please. 210lbs 20% BF 49 yrs old

Ater about 8 weeks on a cycle you will level off and growth will cease. If you dont allow a gap between for your levels to go back to normal, you will find your gains wont be so great. Time off = time on usually but there is no way of knowing without bloodwork.
The alternative is to up dosages for your second cycle but depending on who you are and what the situation is it may simply increase side effects and get you nowhere. Its not safe to continually cycle. Just my opinion brother.
Also deca at that dosage wont do much of anything for your shoulder. It is more effectivel an anti inflammotory than anything and can be a great joint pain killer. Tb-500 peptide helps with repair and I have heard good things but also a lot of stories of no effect.
Given a choice, the best thing you can do to help your shoulder is run some hgh.

**Back In Black** · 01-31-2017, 04:13 PM

What's happening with getting on TRT?

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

What's happening with getting on TRT?

My endo is not recommending it at this time all of my Labs came back normal he checked everything although my T-Level was 387 but this was around 2pm I. think he is is going to recheck my TLevel in the morning but he said as long as it is within range he will not put me on a TRT

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Ater about 8 weeks on a cycle you will level off and growth will cease. If you dont allow a gap between for your levels to go back to normal, you will find your gains wont be so great. Time off = time on usually but there is no way of knowing without bloodwork.
The alternative is to up dosages for your second cycle but depending on who you are and what the situation is it may simply increase side effects and get you nowhere. Its not safe to continually cycle. Just my opinion brother.
Also deca at that dosage wont do much of anything for your shoulder. It is more effectivel an anti inflammotory than anything and can be a great joint pain killer. Tb-500 peptide helps with repair and I have heard good things but also a lot of stories of no effect.
Given a choice, the best thing you can do to help your shoulder is run some hgh.

So what if I just did TEST 250/week

**Obs** · 01-31-2017, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002

So what if I just did TEST 250/week

Good question. I have never ran that low of a dose for an extended period. I would say you would make steady gains 8 weeks then you would level out and just hold on to what you had gained the first 8-10 weeks for the duration you took it. 250 is basically trt dosages for some people. You will still gain some but anything over 12 weeks and you will just plateau and hang out. If you are looking to run trt you might could just get your bloods posted up and let kel or the like, set a suggested dose for you and run it indefinitely, making adjustments as needed with continual bloods.

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Good question. I have never ran that low of a dose for an extended period. I would say you would make steady gains 8 weeks then you would level out and just hold on to what you had gained the first 8-10 weeks for the duration you took it. 250 is basically trt dosages for some people. You will still gain some but anything over 12 weeks and you will just plateau and hang out. If you are looking to run trt you might could just get your bloods posted up and let kel or the like, set a suggested dose for you and run it indefinitely, making adjustments as needed with continual bloods.

So would it be best to just run

TEST 500mg 14 weeks
Adex .5 mg

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=Boneslapper2002;7257408]So would it be best to just run

TEST 500mg 14 weeks
Adex .5 mg EOD
HCG 500 iu EOD

**Obs** · 01-31-2017, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002

So would it be best to just run

TEST 500mg 14 weeks
Adex .5 mg

I would just run that twelve weeks with an Ai and hcg and pct with nolvadex and clomid. Thats a good cycle.

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

I would just run that twelve weeks with an Ai and hcg and pct with nolvadex and clomid. Thats a good cycle.

The reason I am wanting to do a low dose (200 mg/wk) because I plan to blast in a couple of months. How does this sound?

Test E 200mg/wk for 1-8 weeks
Blast - Test E 500 mg/wk for 8-20 weeks
Adex .5 EOD until PCT starts
HCG 250 iu 2Xs wk until 2-3 days before PCT

PCT start 14 days after last pin
Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/50

Cabergoline will be on hand!!!!

Do I need Adex .5 mg for weeks 1-8?

**AR's King Silabolin** · 01-31-2017, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002

The reason I am wanting to do a low dose (250 mg/wk) because I plan to blast in a couple of months. How does this sound?
Test E 250mg/wk for 8 weeks
Adex .5mg EOD

Test E 500 mg/wk for 12 weeks (Blast)
Adex .5 EOD
HCG 500 iu/wk

So this is your plan for getting Trt

?

Gtg but your gains will be like the ones a natty 25 year old could do.

Until u start tren .

U need to pay attention to hcg . And BP.
Maybe a DA on hand for the trenrun.

**Obs** · 01-31-2017, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Boneslapper2002

The reason I am wanting to do a low dose (250 mg/wk) because I plan to blast in a couple of months. How does this sound?
Test E 250mg/wk for 8 weeks
Adex .5mg EOD

Test E 500 mg/wk for 12 weeks (Blast)
Adex .5 EOD
HCG 500 iu/wk

Probably do fine for ya.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 01-31-2017, 09:28 PM

What are you talking about?...first test and deca medical doses. Then tren for 16 weeks?

Then blast for 12 weeks?

Now i lost it. 250 test and 200 tren is not a cruise....unless u are a pro.

**Boneslapper2002** · 01-31-2017, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Silabolin

What are you talking about?...first test and deca medical doses. Then tren for 16 weeks?

Then blast for 12 weeks?

Now i lost it. 250 test and 200 tren is not a cruise....unless u are a pro.

I am not trying to loose you I am just trying to get a good understanding of what everyone is saying. So let me try to clear things up for you, I am looking to do a low dose until I can actually workout because I can't fully workout until April (due to shoulder surgery) which is the time I would do a blast. The reason I wanted to do a Self TRT is because my T-Level is low I have a hard time loosing weight, My sex drive is lower, my energy is low and my strength is low. This is the reason I wanted to do a TRT and low dose of DECA because of recovery for my shoulder. So with the self TRT I'm hoping to get my %BF into the teens at that time I thought I could do a low dose of TREN with no problems that is why I was asking. So I will just stick with a low dose TRT and then blast TEST E 500 mg a wk in April, forget about the DECA and TREN for now I hope this clear things up. I will do the TREN or DECA on the next cycle. Thanks for your help!!!!

**Back In Black** · 02-01-2017, 01:53 AM

What you are saying is you want to self medicate your TRT?

250mg test is not a TRT dose.

**Boneslapper2002** · 02-01-2017, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

What you are saying is you want to self medicate your TRT?

250mg test is not a TRT dose.

Exactly so I will dose at 200mg for a TRT dose and not 250 mg then blast in about 8 weeks to 500mg TEST for 12 weeks. Can I cruise after 12 weeks or will I need to do a PCT? I am wanting my natural TEST to kick back in eventually but I want to stay on TEST for a longer period will this be ok?

**Back In Black** · 02-01-2017, 08:00 AM

200mg is a high dose too and will, no doubt, require use of an AI.

Why don't you just cycle and PCT then get bloods done again 8 weeks after PCT end?

The longer you inject exogenous testosterone the harder it is for you to recover. You're talking about being shut down fo almost half a year, at your age chances of recovery are more difficult.

**Mooseman33** · 02-01-2017, 08:53 AM

in addition;

why not just diet and cardio, you have a shoulder injury, your legs sound like they work.
save the steroids until you can actually workout, then have at it.

**Boneslapper2002** · 02-01-2017, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

200mg is a high dose too and will, no doubt, require use of an AI.

Why don't you just cycle and PCT then get bloods done again 8 weeks after PCT end?

The longer you inject exogenous testosterone the harder it is for you to recover. You're talking about being shut down fo almost half a year, at your age chances of recovery are more difficult.

I guess I just need to calm the hell down because I am ready mentally but physically I'm not I have gear on hand and ready to go I will be ready to go in April so I will just wait my time and try to learn some patience!!!