My next cycle...

[custom fit]

Test prop 150mg eod weeks 1-13
EQ 400-600mg eod weeks 1-6
Trenbolone 100-125mg eod weeks 8-14
winstrol 50mg ed weeks 9-14
***of course clomid post cycle***

My question is should i worry about excessive hair loss, liver damage, kidney damage, etc? Need any Anti-E's?

I'm kind of undecided about the winstrol. Winstrol is very expensive and i am thinking that the Trenbolone will cut me, especially if it's at the end of the cycle without test.

Should I run EQ at 400mg/wk rather 600mg/wk based on safety if this is my second cycle?

Last Q's if you would run this how much would you pay (minus the winstrol)?
i would need 4 bottles of Test Propinate 150mg eod
3 bottles of EQ 400mg/wk
2 carts of Tren 100-150mg eod

I am calculating about $600 plus $100 or less.

What do you think?

[Billy_Bathgate]

Test prop 50mg ed weeks 1-13
EQ 400/wk weeks 1-10
Trenbolone 75mged weeks 1-13

Thats what I would go with.

This is still relatively mild, your concerns I wouldnt really worry about it. Hair loss and liver stress would have been mostly from winstrol and as you see I recomend you lose it anyways.

IF you want, prop could be ran at 75mg ED and EQ could be at 600/wk. I dont think it would hurt you or anything, but for a second cycle I dobut its needed.

A low dose of 5-10mg Nolva ed would be a good anti-e. You shouldnt need much from 350test/wk. If you goto 525, then Id suggest 25mg Aromasin E3D on top of the nolva.


Price? eh..350-450 maybe would be my guess for an average price. Off of what I listed though. From what you listed 400-500 sounds reasonable.

Depends I suppose.

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BB, I have been researching tren, and is not as toxic as it was first perceived, but would it be safe for 13 weeks?

Please feel free to critique the cycle EVERYONE.

[daem]

BB, I have been researching tren, and is not as toxic as it was first perceived, but would it be safe for 13 weeks?

Please feel free to critique the cycle EVERYONE.

i personally wouldn't go past 10, but that is just me. tren is very hard on the body and coming off of it is the worst.

[t-rex]

I just finished my cycle that looked very similar to yours except I took the tren wks 1-6 and then continued with the rest. I also only took 80 mg eod. I had no problems and gained about 15 lbs of solid muscle in those 6 wks. I also kept my protein intake around 400g and ate real clean. make sure you are drinking at least a gallon of water a day, I was drinking 3 gallons per day. started out at 230lbs about 15% bodyfat finished at 228 lbs 7.75% bf.

[Billy_Bathgate]

No, tren is very overated IMO. I dont think its hard on you at all and have ran it 18wks even with deca.

But...if ya dont wanna just got

Test prop 50mg ed weeks 1-13
EQ 400/wk weeks 1-10
Trenbolone 75mged weeks 1-4, 6or8-13

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i was talking to a friend and he suggested that i take sus250 with the EQ, and tren b/c it would get me bigger and stronger. I replied and said that i don't want to hold all that water weight from the sust.

I was wondering if by taking the EQ and the tren if that would reduce the water retention of sust?


would anyone recommend taking sust rather than propinate?

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just doing some tweeking how about this...

prop weeks 1-5 150mg eod
weeks 10-14 150mg eod

sust 250 weeks 1-5 250mg/wk
weeks 5-10 500mg/wk

EQ weeks 1-10 400mg/wk
Tren weeks 7-14 150mg eod

This is not meant to be a pyramid effect, but a decision based on limiting increased water weight, and cost. I figured the Prop would jump start my cycle, while the sust at a lower dosage would take a couple of weeks to kick in, and once the sust does, I would increase it.

Opinions????

[sharky]

the last one looks good but bump the eq to 450.

[custom fit]

the last one looks good but bump the eq to 450.

if i did bump it up i would go with 500mg. Will the extra 100 benefit me in any way?

[custom fit]

bump for more opinions.

...and what are some good products to go with in:

prop
sust
EQ