Share you're 1st cycle.....

**Capebuffalo** · 02-23-2017, 05:53 PM

Yes. Test only first cycle.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

**Good2Joe** · 02-23-2017, 07:25 PM

[QUOTE=Capebuffalo;7267626]Yes. Test only first cycle.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

I've memorized that forum lol. Thanks, I will do test only. It recommends hog, what is your opinion on that? I was kind of only wanting to do the 2 shots a week, not 4. Anyone do a test cycle with no hcg ? I got the arimidex and PCT already, just don't know if I can afford the hug....I guess can wait until I can afford it to start.

**songdog** · 02-23-2017, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Good2Joe

Songdog by looking at my picture, what is your opinion on my base and me doing a 1st cycle? Attachment 167916

You got got to hit the diet section bro learn how too eat and beef up a bit.This will only help you when you are ready to cycle.You don't want to be one of those knob heads who gains 30 to 40lbs on a cycle then loses it.

**songdog** · 02-23-2017, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by fit_deskjocky

I recommend you hit a good 5x5 powerlifting routine, 5/3/1 would be rough on the joints at 42. I'm assumin your joints are holding up well at 42 for the 5x5. Really thicken up and strengthen your connective tissue before trying a cycle. I'd supplement with some Creatine Mono or HCL to add strength and size.

I am 58 and I just ran the 5x5 for 4 weeks.Yes it was a bitach but it helped.

**songdog** · 02-23-2017, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by evanescent

Haha! Cheers! but no photoshop. I focus most of my strength training on Bi's, Tri's and Glutes, so I'm very out of proportion.

I'm obsessed with getting my arms as thick as my thighs and having a huge Kardashian-esque ass. Dropping body fat lower just looks creepy and sinewy.

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I will tell you right now your stay here is going to be real short delete this crap! this isn't a gay porn site!

**evanescent** · 02-23-2017, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

I will tell you right now your stay here is going to be real short delete this crap! this isn't a gay porn site!

Cheers for the feedback you homophobic decrepit relic <3

**Max562** · 02-23-2017, 09:04 PM

Belly fat hard as hell to get rid of. I do sit ups and planks shits taking forever.

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**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-23-2017, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Max562

Belly fat hard as hell to get rid of. I do sit ups and planks shits taking forever. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Spot reduction does not work.

**numbere** · 02-23-2017, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by evanescent

Cheers for the feedback you homophobic decrepit relic <3

Read the link below and stop the flaming (no pun intended) and arguing with staff.

There is a difference between posing a photo of your physique and posting a photo of you cross dressing.

One photo furthers the conversation, the other is superfluous.

Before you playing the homophobic card you should know that many of us have gay friends and colleagues whom we hold in high regard.

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**DocToxin8** · 02-24-2017, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Good2Joe

Howd it go and howd you feel? And also, do do you agree with the Test only 1st cycle recommendation?

In the end I included some winstrol depot injections, about 2x50mg a week.

It was a foolish cycle by today's standards, simply by how long it was.
But judging by the results I got from test only for the first months I'd agree nothing else was needed. When I included the winstrol I had stayed on long enough that it would normally have been my second or third cycle.

Test, by itself is a monster for adding on strength and mass.

**Good2Joe** · 02-24-2017, 12:17 AM

I can beef up, ive just been obsessed with losing, trying to get my belly where i want it. But i want to cycle pretty bad and am ready to. Why cant lean guys like me cycle?

**songdog** · 02-24-2017, 09:13 AM

Go to the educational threads and read guy who want too gain 25lbs plus on cycle.

**fit_deskjocky** · 02-24-2017, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by songdog

I am 58 and I just ran the 5x5 for 4 weeks.Yes it was a bitach but it helped.

I just got back on the 5x5 too after I hit a plateau on most of my lifts and growth at the same time. I'm on week 3 of it and have blasted through the plateau. I still leave room after hitting the muscle group of the day at 5x5 for a few sets of pump inducing movements. It's hard to get away from the bodybuilding mentality.

At 58, how are your joints holding up with the routine?

**fit_deskjocky** · 02-24-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Good2Joe

I can beef up, ive just been obsessed with losing, trying to get my belly where i want it. But i want to cycle pretty bad and am ready to. Why cant lean guys like me cycle?

You can cycle, it's just that when most of us on here see someone that's lean it's assumed that they haven't spent time in the gym and physically aren't ready. Having muscle will definatley help with fat loss, plus increasing your metabolism. I'd be prepared to start eating more than 1,700cals a day or your mind is going to constantly be on food all day. Hell I'm at 3600 cals per day and I'm still hungry.

**fit_deskjocky** · 02-24-2017, 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=Good2Joe;7267707]

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Yes. Test only first cycle.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

I've memorized that forum lol. Thanks, I will do test only. It recommends hog, what is your opinion on that? I was kind of only wanting to do the 2 shots a week, not 4. Anyone do a test cycle with no hcg? I got the arimidex and PCT already, just don't know if I can afford the hug....I guess can wait until I can afford it to start.

There is also a good thread about why to run HCG while on cycle vs the old school blast method as PCT. It makes sense. HCG is administered SubQ so it's just a tiny stin pin in the fat of your stomach, you really don't even feel it.

**songdog** · 02-24-2017, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by fit_deskjocky

I just got back on the 5x5 too after I hit a plateau on most of my lifts and growth at the same time. I'm on week 3 of it and have blasted through the plateau. I still leave room after hitting the muscle group of the day at 5x5 for a few sets of pump inducing movements. It's hard to get away from the bodybuilding mentality.

At 58, how are your joints holding up with the routine?

I was fine I just warm up real well.

**fit_deskjocky** · 02-24-2017, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

I was fine I just warm up real well.

Dan "Boss: Green's 5x5 is nice. I think you'd like that one if you need to change it up.

Dan "BOSS" Green --- Boss of Bosses 3 Training Log

**songdog** · 02-24-2017, 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=Good2Joe;7267707]

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Yes. Test only first cycle.

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

I've memorized that forum lol. Thanks, I will do test only. It recommends hog, what is your opinion on that? I was kind of only wanting to do the 2 shots a week, not 4. Anyone do a test cycle with no hcg? I got the arimidex and PCT already, just don't know if I can afford the hug....I guess can wait until I can afford it to start.

Bro if you can't afford the compounds needed you can't afford too cycle.Food is the biggest cost and you aint ready to bulk.I am not trying to be mean but you don't look like a lifter.But you go ahead and run your cycle and I got a 20.00 that says you get no bigger than a good sized HS kid.But due wat you need too due.

**Good2Joe** · 02-24-2017, 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=songdog;7268105]

Originally Posted by Good2Joe

Bro if you can't afford the compounds needed you can't afford too cycle.Food is the biggest cost and you aint ready to bulk.I am not trying to be mean but you don't look like a lifter.But you go ahead and run your cycle and I got a 20.00 that says you get no bigger than a good sized HS kid.But due wat you need too due.

I am gonna read the forum on how to bulk. I don't want to get huge. I want to gain muscle, stay lean just in a body fat way not skinny, and add strength. I can afford stuff I just have to wait and buy it in 2 separate deals then start my cycle when I have it all. Thanks for your input, I do lift though, 5-6 days a week, was just in a weight loss program cause I was chubby and lost 46 pounds in a year. Now I'm thin enough I can start bulking the RIGHT way

I am a big HS kid lol

**Good2Joe** · 02-24-2017, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

Spot reduction does not work.

Whats spot reduction? And do you have any advice on belly fat, it's probably all in the kitchen for me at this point?

**Quester** · 02-24-2017, 07:00 PM

Spot reduction is doing exercising specific muscles in order to reduce fat in those areas-it doesn't work. This has been proven so long ago that no one will provide you with evidence.
Fat is deposited and lost according to factors which are decided before your old enough to go to the gym. Diest is the only way to reduce fat and it cannot be targeted to specific areas of the body.
However, gaining muscle without losing fat can lead to differences in the appearance of fat i.e. a two guys (all else equal) with the same bf% but different amounts of muscle have a different look.