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    Second Cycle Review/ Suggestions

    Hi guys a little about me.

    25 y/o
    5'9
    175 lbs
    13-15% BF
    Been training since 16
    Previous cycle was Test e 500mg a week for 12 weeks around 3 years ago.


    Proposed cycle:
    Sus 500mg p/week (Testoject 250 by cooper pharma) x 12 week
    Pinning Mondays and Fridays (rotating shoulders, legs and glutes)
    AI : arimadex 0.25mg EOD or Aromasin 25mg ED
    PCT: Nolva 40/20/20/20 Chlomid 75/50/50/50
    HCG : Post cycle
    Calorie surplus : +750 ED
    Protein 1g per Lb BW

    Goals this cycle:

    To hit atleast 195 at peak, and post cycle keep atleast up to 185

    Thankyou

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    You need to run your HCG through the cycle not in PCT. 250ius twice a week until 3 days before the start of PCT.

    Make sure you allow for your increase in weight in your surplus. No point running e.g. 4000cals throughout the cycle because at the start it's a 750cal surplus. I start with a few hundred surplus and add 100cals per week. Means I don't overeat and get a fat ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You need to run your HCG through the cycle not in PCT. 250ius twice a week until 3 days before the start of PCT.

    Make sure you allow for your increase in weight in your surplus. No point running e.g. 4000cals throughout the cycle because at the start it's a 750cal surplus. I start with a few hundred surplus and add 100cals per week. Means I don't overeat and get a fat ass.
    Thankyou yes i was planning on slowly increasing as the weeks go by to end up at the 750 surplus around week 3-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulker808 View Post
    Thankyou yes i was planning on slowly increasing as the weeks go by to end up at the 750 surplus around week 3-4.
    What about the hCG ?? It's not used post cycle it's used on cycle(just as BIB said stopping 3days b4 the start of your PCT) since pinning Sust do you know when your PCT starts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    What about the hCG?? It's not used post cycle it's used on cycle(just as BIB said stopping 3days b4 the start of your PCT) since pinning Sust do you know when your PCT starts??
    HCG i am trying to get hold of. Will take during cycle once i do.

    I was planning on starting PCT 3 weeks after my last shot, Please correct me if i am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulker808 View Post
    I was planning on starting PCT 3 weeks after my last shot, Please correct me if i am wrong.
    PCT for sust is usually 18 days after last pin but imo two weeks is fine.

    If I were going to cycle with sust I'd add two additional weeks of nolva to PCT, six weeks in total.

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    Why Sust? Many are less impressed with it as compared to a single ester Test.
    What was your first cycle compound(s)?
    Why not two solid compounds like Test and a Nor?
    Why HCG at all, with simple 12-week Test-only cycle?---Did you experience recovery problems in 1st cycle?
    Why Mase?
    Why Clomid and Nova?

    For a basic Test cycle (even if it is hybrid like Sust or Omna), all you need is a solid PCT, choose Nolva (preferred) or Clomid. Drop the Aromasin ...complete unnecessary here, as is HCG unless you had some serious natty recovery problems in cycle 1.

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