How to know a scam/sting operation when you see one?

[tropicalsensation]

I have been on the website eroids which gives you a list of domestic sources which I will not name, However a few of the top sources price their product extremley cheap for example 40$ for a 10ml 300mg test enanthate 300mg/ml which is basically 40-80 dollars for a 3 month beginner cycle if this is accurate. The reviews on these sites are great but whos to say that they are not faked. What are some general price ranges for say a 500mg test cycle a week for 3 months? I'd rather not get ripped off.

[Marsoc]

Your average price for 1 10ml vial or 10x 1ml amps is roughly 25-40$ international. U.s.a Domestic the prices are insane. I just looked at this one brand that had different super heros on the vials of different steroids and they were like 85$ a 10ml vial. That's fucking nuts. For a 10week cycle at around 400-500 mg /week you need at least 5x 10 ml vials. That's not including your AI, HCG and BAC water for on cycle as well as your Nolvadex and clomid for pct.

Ps: I never cycled. But I'm "shopping around" to get organized and just learning on here by being active.

[redz]

I'm not giving out sources but I know of some crazy cheap ones even us domestic but I'm in Canada myself so I haven't ordered from them but know some people that have. I don't do international orders anymore the prices aren't worth it when I can get it domestic for just a bit more. I can test e for $55 Canadian if I buy in bulk. Even without bulk it's not more than 70$ Canadian.

[Sh0tsf1red]

I think $40-50 for a vial of test is a good price. The US based labs that ship to USA seem to change high prices, probably reflecting the assumed risked. I use a Canada group and never had issues with shipping. (Knock on wood)

Either way it's a dice roll, the most reputable lab in the world can't stop a nosy postman

[>Good Luck<]

you can spot a scam easily because they always have a banner that says "NOT A SCAM!'

[jstone]

Your average price for 1 10ml vial or 10x 1ml amps is roughly 25-40$ international. U.s.a Domestic the prices are insane. I just looked at this one brand that had different super heros on the vials of different steroids and they were like 85$ a 10ml vial. That's fucking nuts. For a 10week cycle at around 400-500 mg /week you need at least 5x 10 ml vials. That's not including your AI, HCG and BAC water for on cycle as well as your Nolvadex and clomid for pct.

Ps: I never cycled. But I'm "shopping around" to get organized and just learning on here by being active.

Your math is a bit off. A 10 week cycle would only be 3 vials, and you would have around 7ml left. The source you speek of also used to be part of the dark web, and now a certain international source offers them for there domestic US sales. Most sources that are strictly domestic have good prices, international sources that offer US domestic usually charge much more.

[DocToxin8]

Just send your money to me and I'll invest it for you.
Ps. THIS IS NOT A SCAM!

[Nephets]

Just send your money to me and I'll invest it for you.
Ps. THIS IS NOT A SCAM!

lol...to whom shall I make the cheque payable to. would it be easier if I just gave you my credit card number.

[< <Samson> >]

Wtf

Prices are not a direct correlation of jack shit

I'm not saying what I pay for anything, but it sure isn't what I use to pay once upon a time.

[songdog]

I remember when test was 11.00 for 10ml from Mexico and it was great stuff.But that was before the big busts and most of you kids weren't even thought of yet.

[ScotchGuard02]

Finding a good source is not easy.

[< <Samson> >]

The "big" prob with ALL sources/UGL is they are all black market. Black market has zero regulations to follow. . . They brew, whatever they get their hands on. Shit varies from vial to vial, let alone batch to batch.

And HG gear is a myth

[ghettoboyd]

The "big" prob with ALL sources/UGL is they are all black market. Black market has zero regulations to follow. . . They brew, whatever they get their hands on. Shit varies from vial to vial, let alone batch to batch.

And HG gear is a myth

I feel for you bro but there are peeps out there that have been in the game almost as long as the internet that produce HG gear but they are very private...but as far as google search website ugl's that everyone uses then what you are saying is spot on...

[PT1982]

40 bucks for test is cheap???

[PT1982]

I remember when test was 11.00 for 10ml from Mexico and it was great stuff.But that was before the big busts and most of you kids weren't even thought of yet.

I can remember schiering primo amps for 6 and 8 bucks!

[redz]

40 is a good price I'd say.

[PT1982]

It's been a while I guess. I had no idea

[DocToxin8]

Over here in Scandinavia we still got lots of Pharma grade test going around,
most is simply imported from places like Iran, Egypt, etc.
but most everything else is UG

The quality of the UG products are generally quite high though,
(At least that's my impression, maybe I'm just lucky or not stupid)
I've seen some questionable shit shown to me by rookies,
but overall I've seen some decent UG products.
I'm not a rep for any of them and can't say they are good in your country,
but f.ex Alpha Pharma and Malay Tiger has been smooth shit.

Cost over here doesn't necessarily correlate with quality at all.

I get the feeling that you got a lot more labs over in the US,
since it seems more common to home brew, and by extension; anyone can start a lab. Over here it's quite difficult to obtain the necessary shit to home brew,
and it makes sense that if you're gonna risk importing drugs,
It should either be totally fake (so LE can't touch you),
or good stuff, (good enough to sell that is)

Again, maybe I'm just lucky.

But I've been using AAS since I got all my gear HG Pharma:
Testoviron from Schering, Sustanon from Organon, Winstrol from Zambon.
So I got some reference material to say the least.

I also stay away from test dosed higher than 250mg/ml.
While I understand it's better to smuggle,
I don't mind injecting oil.

Actually reminds me of some Pharma gear I got in Egypt:
That was a lot of oil though!

[wellshii]

Id take AAS for alcohol any day and fast food anyday.
Way to go Ben.

[Marsoc]

Your math is a bit off. A 10 week cycle would only be 3 vials, and you would have around 7ml left. The source you speek of also used to be part of the dark web, and now a certain international source offers them for there domestic US sales. Most sources that are strictly domestic have good prices, international sources that offer US domestic usually charge much more.

im talking about 100mg/ml vials at 500mg/week , a vial last You 2weeks ....10 weeks total, that's 5 vials

[< <Samson> >]

My low budget UGL's do fairly well though


After dealing with this crap for over 5 years, You can somewhat tell what's what + I test random batches with the ol'(semi) trusty LabMax


The bigger concern that I have is WTF extra is in the shit. . . . . . Also, how does our body treat BA, BB, EO or whatever else they use to brew this shit down in the long run.


From what I am seeing that's the case with most of my UGL shat - it's loaded with alcohol - and the UGL's I have been dealing with recently, load their gear - some of this shit just "seems" overdosed

[PT1982]

My low budget UGL's do fairly well though


After dealing with this crap for over 5 years, You can somewhat tell what's what + I test random batches with the ol'(semi) trusty LabMax


The bigger concern that I have is WTF extra is in the shit. . . . . . Also, how does our body treat BA, BB, EO or whatever else they use to brew this shit down in the long run.


From what I am seeing that's the case with most of my UGL shat - it's loaded with alcohol - and the UGL's I have been dealing with recently, load their gear - some of this shit just "seems" overdosed

I agree. And I think a lot (I could be mistaken) use a higher BA concentration than needed because they don't filter. I know hundreds of guys on a "darker" forum that thinks filtering is dumb. And if you've ever brewed, you'll know filtering is a pain and the worst part. If I didn't filter, I could have 100mls of test completely finished and in 10 vials within 15 minutes. People will take short cuts no doubt. I hand filter, so 100mls takes me about 2-3 hours start to finish. I couldn't imagine what some of these ugls are doing with thousands of mls a day.

[DocToxin8]

Yeah, BA is one thing, and IMO 0,9% is what it's supposed to be at, but 2% can be OK. What I don't want is that fuckin Benzylbenzoate. It has nothing to do in an AAS prep IMO. All Pharma grade can avoid it, do should UGLs. That's also a reason I don't like high dose shit. But unfiltered? Yuck.
Again, small time lab operations isn't necessarily a good thing.

I'll always opt for Pharma grade test, I get enough shit in me when running other compounds.

[< <Samson> >]

Lol - that's what I said, I got a stack of HG test

The other shit is more on the questionable side. . . They filter - with a coffee filter. Crap shit

Brewing seems like a pain - at least when it comes to the higher end shit that I love so much(Tren & Mast)

[PT1982]

Lol - that's what I said, I got a stack of HG test

The other shit is more on the questionable side. . . They filter - with a coffee filter. Crap shit

Brewing seems like a pain - at least when it comes to the higher end shit that I love so much(Tren & Mast)

I swear that if you ever take the leap into it, you'll never look back. You know the quality because you brewed it, and the cost is literally nothing. You can have 10 years worth of gear for the price of a year's worth of supplements from your local gnc.

[PT1982]

To put into perspective, I brew my own trt test, and everything going else. I usually blast 3 times a year and my annual gear costs for me and my wife are less than the cost of 2 pairs of bluejeans. I used that lingo to keep from breaking any rules.

[PT1982]

Yeah, BA is one thing, and IMO 0,9% is what it's supposed to be at, but 2% can be OK. What I don't want is that fuckin Benzylbenzoate. It has nothing to do in an AAS prep IMO. All Pharma grade can avoid it, do should UGLs. That's also a reason I don't like high dose shit. But unfiltered? Yuck.
Again, small time lab operations isn't necessarily a good thing.

I'll always opt for Pharma grade test, I get enough shit in me when running other compounds.

My pharma watson uses 8% BB. The main solvent I think is very damaging is EO. So many people love it, and you can brew some really high doses, but I've seen studies where it's suspected of muscular necrosis. I can't verify this at all, but it does make me think. I do use it to brew my tren and mast however

[Couchlock]

My pharma watson uses 8% BB. The main solvent I think is very damaging is EO. So many people love it, and you can brew some really high doses, but I've seen studies where it's suspected of muscular necrosis. I can't verify this at all, but it does make me think. I do use it to brew my tren and mast however

Can you explain what the different solvent and preserative used in manufacture are?

Just actual names, not abbreviations. I can Google what they are after I know what they are called.

Like what does "BB" and "EO" stand for?

[< <Samson> >]

I might look into brewing my own

My main concern is ruining batches of expensive hormone powder, like Tren or mast. < which I run most often

Tren seems quite tempermental

[kelkel]

Tren seems quite tempermental

It's female.

[kelkel]

All this makes me quite happy I don't use all my TRT test. I must have 8 bottles of pharm grade in my stash.

[swol_mat]

Finding a good source is not easy.

Not entirely true...