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03-09-2017, 08:49 AM #1
Light cycle
Is there such thing as a light cycle? I'm going to go on a cut soon and dont want to lose the size/strength I've put on during my bulk. I was trying to avoid going on cycle looking at alternatives but there just aren't any....
My concern are the sides, I went on a poorly informed cycle last summer and as a result my nuts shrunk permanently, and believe it's caused some issues with my pituitary gland as I have high prolactin levels, which I'm trying to sort out with my Dr. I'm also 40 and don't want to fuck with my bodies chemistry too much, at this age shit really starts changing so want to be careful.
So if I did decide to go on cycle, what would you recommend I take to maximize low bf% while maintaining my current size/strength?Last edited by jjsevens; 03-09-2017 at 08:52 AM.
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03-09-2017, 09:10 AM #2Banned
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A light cycle can be described as low dose, but as far as shut down low and high do the same. Might as well do it right.
500mg test per week. 1-12
.25mg adex eod. 1-14
250iu hcg 2x per week 1-14
Run hcg and adex up until start of pct, discontinue hcg 3 days before first pct dose, run adex up to first dose.
75/50/50/50 ed per week Clomid
40/20/20/20/20 ed per week Nolva
That s a conservative, effective, simple "light cycle"
Anything else is just not enough and half assed, or too much and silly and going to make more sides than you'll care to deal with
Diet diet diet diet to maximise low BF%
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03-09-2017, 10:28 AM #3
OK thanks for the breakdown, shit man I just can't win no matter which way I slice it.... still on the fence about this.
Sorry if these are stupid questions, but need some clarification on the list you gave me...
What type of test and should I take and is it better to break it up to twice a week?
What is adex EOD and what does it do?
Do I need to wait xxx number of days after my last pin before I start PCT?
What do you mean by 75/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20/20 Ed per week? Every day? So for example clomid 75mg in the morning, 50mg mid morning, 50mg in the afternoon etc...??
How long should I run pct?
Lastly what would you recommend as a suitable calorie defecit while on this cycle, again maintaining size/strength? I'm at 20% bf and would like to cut down to 10%
Thankyou for your help.
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03-09-2017, 10:35 AM #4Banned
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Arimidex , or "ADEX" is anastrozole, it is an "aromatase inhibitor" it prevents conversion of test to estrogen. Its necessary to prevent edema, high blood pressure, extra fat gain, and gyno. It is used at a starting dose of .25mg (1/4 mg) EveryOtherDay (EOD)
TEST should be cypionate or enanthate , yes pin 250mg twice a week, Monday morning, and Thursday evening.
You need to wait 18 days after last pin to start pct if using cyp. Or 14 days if using enan.
The dose of Clomid will be 75mg every day for first week,then 50mg every day for The following 3 weeks.
Nolva 40mg every day for first week, and 20mg every day for the following 3 to 5 weeks.
You'll run Nolva and Clomid concurrently and Clomid will end at week 4, Nolva will run an additional 1 or 2 weeks.
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03-09-2017, 10:45 AM #5
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03-09-2017, 11:06 AM #6
Any benefits/negatives or sides between cyp or enanthate ?
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03-09-2017, 11:20 AM #7
What stats do you need to see? Everything checks back ok according to my Dr, with the exception of prolactin levels, which haven't gone up tremendously to raise serious concerns, I've also taken an xray of the pituitary gland to rule out prolactinoma. I also have hypothyroidism and is in check, but could be the reason why my prolactins out of wack. Either way this is something I'm trying to resolve with my Dr IF I decide to go on cycle.
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03-09-2017, 11:49 AM #8
Can you post your bloodwork?
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03-09-2017, 11:52 AM #9Banned
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03-09-2017, 12:11 PM #10
You might want to consider some hcg to get those nuts back
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03-09-2017, 01:46 PM #11
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03-09-2017, 01:48 PM #12
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03-09-2017, 03:08 PM #13
I'm just pulling your chain to get a laugh. You need blood work first and foremost. But yes, if they are lagging it may help. DO NOT DO THIS until you figure out what's going on. You don't want to fight a dragon with a stick. Neither do you want to use compounds to fix one thing not knowing the underlying issue.
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03-09-2017, 06:21 PM #14
I've got blood work, tonnes of stuff on that so what do you guys want to see? What do you mean don't do this....? HCG ?
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03-09-2017, 06:27 PM #15
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03-09-2017, 08:45 PM #16
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03-09-2017, 09:09 PM #17
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03-09-2017, 09:11 PM #18
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03-09-2017, 10:22 PM #19
Your first mistake is cycling with very high bf. Have you developed any gyno from the first cycle? What did you use first cycle?
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03-09-2017, 10:36 PM #20
I'm not starting yet, going to start in mid April, and probably not that bad, I should be able to bring it down to 15% by then. Not sure exactly, it was a test with anavar ,didnt develop any gyno.
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03-09-2017, 10:43 PM #21
Cutting 5% bf takes some work but it makes a difference for a cycle. What was your pct?
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03-09-2017, 11:57 PM #22
My recommendation is cardio and diet. AAS does not cut bodyfat, your diet dictates this. AAS helps to preserve muscle. Unless you are competing, i would not use AAS
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03-10-2017, 01:24 PM #23
Yes I know what I need to do with diet/cardio, I'll have that on check before I start.
What would the experts like to see regarding blood work? As stated, Dr. said besides the prolactin issue, which I am sorting out with him first, says everything falls within normal ranges.
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03-10-2017, 09:50 PM #24
What would you guys suggest for a calorie deficit on the above cycle? It's usually 500 but can I be more aggressive without compromising size/strength?
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