Testosterone level mortality question

**Xplosive** · 03-12-2017, 07:15 PM

Who would die earlier? A man with a testosterone level of 150 ng/dl or a man on trt with a level of 1600 ng/dl?

**PT1982** · 03-12-2017, 07:33 PM

This is just a talking point. There are way too many variables to determine this. Why are you asking?

**redz** · 03-12-2017, 08:06 PM

There's a billion possible variables. There's no rules or exact calculation look at some 95 year old 2 pack per day alcoholics.

**kelkel** · 03-12-2017, 08:43 PM

Interesting question. All things being equal, if that's possible in this hypothetical then low testosterone is by far worse than high testosterone . Both physically and mentally. Obesity and heart disease, to name a couple are far more prevalent with low T.

Considering I've seen both sides of T levels, from living with a 59 ng/dl level for who knows how long to consistent T levels via TRT. Not to mention some levels far beyond the norm. Not sure how that happens......it just does.

**PT1982** · 03-12-2017, 08:53 PM

There's no doubt I'd rather die at 1600ng vs 150. But it's just an impossible thing to determine with so many variables. Literally, hundreds of them. Lol.

**kelkel** · 03-12-2017, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by redz

There's no rules or exact calculation look at some 95 year old 2 pack per day alcoholics.

That always amazes me.

**DocToxin8** · 03-13-2017, 03:33 AM

I agree with Kel, all things being equal, I think very low T will be more unhealthy than high T. But in practice it will be impossible to tell though.

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-13-2017, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Xplosive

Who would die earlier? A man with a testosterone level of 150 ng/dl or a man on trt with a level of 1600 ng/dl?

I would say that the guy with 1600 ng/dl would die first. Why? Because he'd be trying to bed anyone he can with all that Test in his system. Then his wife'll find out and kill him. LOL

**hammerheart** · 03-13-2017, 02:38 PM

I'd say E2 levels make an important determinant out of the equation.

If kept in check, slight ultra-physiological levels won't deal any damage to vital systems, imo.

The man with 150 ng/dl (that was my pre-TRT reading lol) according to scientific literature has more odds of developing metabolic syndrome.

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I would say that the guy with 1600 ng/dl would die first. Why? Because he'd be trying to bed anyone he can with all that Test in his system.

If only that worked for me too!

**Xplosive** · 03-13-2017, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

This is just a talking point. There are way too many variables to determine this. Why are you asking?

Because if you read my past posts (been a member of this site for 13 years), I never recovered after my last cycle. I started taking aas at age 20 and was shutdown by age 25.

Went on trt at 30 after 5 years of hell. Didn't feel good at the dosage my doc was prescribing. My levels on 100mg a week were 800 but still had problems with boners so decided to self medicate with 250mg week TE. My levels are around 1500 and I feel great.

I'm now 36 and will be staying on this dosage for life.

**kelkel** · 03-13-2017, 04:56 PM

Just be sure you monitor your blood work closely.

**PT1982** · 03-13-2017, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Xplosive

Because if you read my past posts (been a member of this site for 13 years), I never recovered after my last cycle. I started taking aas at age 20 and was shutdown by age 25.

Went on trt at 30 after 5 years of hell. Didn't feel good at the dosage my doc was prescribing. My levels on 100mg a week were 800 but still had problems with boners so decided to self medicate with 250mg week TE. My levels are around 1500 and I feel great.

I'm now 36 and will be staying on this dosage for life.

I read it all. I wasn't being rude, I was asking why you ask this question, especially with 0 scenarios. It's an impossible question to even guess at due to the many variables not given.