Test / Tren Cycle

[sandaddiction]

I am starting to prepare for my next Test / Tren cycle. This will be my first time running Tren. I've done 5 Test cycles, some with the addition of Winstrol or Anavar.

Stats:
Age 28
Weight 190
BF 15%

Training - 5 Days / Week (Upper/Lower/Push/Pull/Legs)

Cycle
Test C - 250mg every 4 days (437.5 / week) - Weeks 1-10
Tren E - 250mg every 4 days (437.5 / week) - Weeks 3-10
Caber - .25 every 3 days - Weeks 3-8
Arimidix - .25 every other day - Week 1-10
HCG - 250is every three days - Week 1-10

PCT
Clomid - 75/50/50/50
Nolva - 40/20/20/20

Diet - 3,300 calories (45% carbs / 35% protein / 20% fat)

Please critique this cycle and provide feedback. Is there anything I should add or modify? What are the long term disadvantages to doing Tren vs sticking with Test only?

Thank you

[PT1982]

Looks good to me and researched. Why not run the tren the same duration as the test though?

[Mr.BB]

Start tren week 1, but finish it before test.

HCG and AI needs to be run up to PCT, but seems high AI dosage, did you do bw mid cycle previously?

Wouldn't run caber unless sides/bw

[sandaddiction]

Start tren week 1, but finish it before test.

HCG and AI needs to be run up to PCT, but seems high AI dosage, did you do bw mid cycle previously?

Wouldn't run caber unless sides/bw

Thanks for the feedback. I'll run both up to PCT.

[sandaddiction]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll run both up to PCT.

Just noticed that I put .5 instead of .25 for the AI.

This will be my first cycle using blood work. In the past I was unexpericed with the proper safety methods.

If I start to show Gyno symptons, how soon will Caber work?

[-Nac-]

Id prefer ace myself but if youve already bought e...

[sandaddiction]

Id prefer ace myself but if youve already bought e...

Unfortunately I was only able to get E.

[-Nac-]

Unfortunately I was only able to get E.

Just be vigilant, without crossing the line into paranoia. Ive found that sides can sneak up on you with tren e, much moreso than ace.

[sandaddiction]

Good to know. Thanks. Should I ditch the E until I can find Ace? If not, should I start with a lower dose?

[-Nac-]

All I can tell you, is based on my own experience and what Ive seen in others.

I think ace is the best choice, and the easiest. I feel most confident with ace. Ramping/titrating your dose is significantly easier. Chasing your tail and overshooting sweetspots is reduced.

But...lots of guys have successful, troublefree runs with e. First cycle with tren, impossible to predict where youll fall on the spectrum.

[Back In Black]

300mg per week on a first tren run is plenty.id extend your test by 2 weeks and start your tren at week 1.

Extend your nolva by 2 weeks at 20/20.

I'd much prefer tren ace too.

[bethdoth]

I have run 2 tren Ace/test cyp cycles. I got amazing results from just 50mg tren A EOD and 200mg test cyp. Good diet plan and workout you would be amazed!

[sandaddiction]

300mg per week on a first tren run is plenty.id extend your test by 2 weeks and start your tren at week 1.

Extend your nolva by 2 weeks at 20/20.

I'd much prefer tren ace too.

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?

[redz]

Yes run the test out a few weeks longer than Tren. I love Tren E.

[Back In Black]

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?

Those periods are correct.

Yes, split the dose.

[tice1212]

Just to clarify, are you recommending 10 weeks Tren and 12 weeks Test?

At 300mg/week, should I split the doses or just one shot?

If ur asking this question u should NOT be touching either of these compounds.

[sandaddiction]

Those periods are correct.

Yes, split the dose.

I've decided to rethink my cycle and purchases to include Tren Ace instead of Tren E. Doing so, what would the "ideal Test Tren" cycle be now that I will be making some new purchases. Also, how would it be to use the Pharmacom Mix 2?

Thanks

[redz]

What's in the mix test p and tren ace?

[sandaddiction]

What's in the mix test p and tren ace?

Trenbolone Acetate 75 mg/ml
Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg/ml
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 75 mg/ml

[Back In Black]

Trenbolone Acetate 75 mg/ml
Drostanolone Propionate 100 mg/ml
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 75 mg/ml

That's more than just test and tren. How would you extend your test longer than your tren? How would you make your test dose higher? I hate blends btw, lol.

There is no ideal test/tren cycle. Are you going to use tren ace but still use a long test ester or are you going to use prop?

[sandaddiction]

That's more than just test and tren. How would you extend your test longer than your tren? How would you make your test dose higher? I hate blends btw, lol.

There is no ideal test/tren cycle. Are you going to use tren ace but still use a long test ester or are you going to use prop?

I would switch to Prop and use all short just to make life easier.