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    How long in between cycles?

    I'm planning out my 2nd cycle and was curious on what the earliest is I should start it. I read a lot of "CYCLE + PCT = Time OFF," but have also read that it's not as black and white as that, and it really depends on your bloodwork.

    If my BW comes back great and I'm only about 12-16 weeks removed (after a 20wk cycle including PCT), should I wait the additional 8 weeks, or should I be good to go?

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    You are correct, it's not black and white. That's just a general guide which is effective considering most don't pull BW. You're fine starting up with good BW in hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You are correct, it's not black and white. That's just a general guide which is effective considering most don't pull BW. You're fine starting up with good BW in hand.

    Much appreciated. I'll be sure to use my BW as a guide then.

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    Im glad i stumbled onto this post. Not trying to hijack here, but to reiterate, is it correct to say that if your test levels jump back 8 weeks later you can do another cycle with the same risk of hpta damage as waiting 16 weeks? (Of course theres always a risk even if you have superhuman genetics)

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    There's always going to be a risk and you're always better off giving your body time to find balance for a period of time prior to throwing another HPTA curve ball at it again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You are correct, it's not black and white. That's just a general guide which is effective considering most don't pull BW. You're fine starting up with good BW in hand.
    Oink oink. I asked that question. Got answer from Austinite himselv. He suggested that even if your bloods come out rigth 2 months after, u should wait 12-14 weeks. I think i remember Marcus agreed also.
    I agree too. Starting to soon like 8 weeks will degrade the effect of the new run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin
    Oink oink. I asked that question. Got answer from Austinite himselv. He suggested that even if your bloods come out rigth 2 months after, u should wait 12-14 weeks. I think i remember Marcus agreed also. I agree too. Starting to soon like 8 weeks will degrade the effect of the new run.
    With all respect to the vets, I agree with Sil. You may want to shoot me up, but your bw can be good, but you need to allow your system to re adjust. Just the fact that bw shows good, does not mean that your body has adjusted and stabilized.
    I was surprised with this advice for a non competing person. Please educate me more. I Guess i am still missing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Oink oink. I asked that question. Got answer from Austinite himselv. He suggested that even if your bloods come out rigth 2 months after, u should wait 12-14 weeks. I think i remember Marcus agreed also.
    I agree too. Starting to soon like 8 weeks will degrade the effect of the new run.
    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    With all respect to the vets, I agree with Sil. You may want to shoot me up, but your bw can be good, but you need to allow your system to re adjust. Just the fact that bw shows good, does not mean that your body has adjusted and stabilized.
    I was surprised with this advice for a non competing person. Please educate me more. I Guess i am still missing something
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    There's always going to be a risk and you're always better off giving your body time to find balance for a period of time prior to throwing another HPTA curve ball at it again!

    Which is exactly why I said the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Which is exactly why I said the above.
    But what if your bloods read normal 4 weeks after PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Small View Post
    But what if your bloods read normal 4 weeks after PCT?
    What's the rush? They may read normal but they just got there. Unless you have a contest imminent your body needs time to find homeostasis. Remember, your gains are going to be determined more by how you live "off cycle" than on.
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    I think all sensible persons can agree that the longer you wait the better.
    If you could wait a year or two between each cycle then all the better.

    But most of us want to go back in ASAP, and for lack of any better gauge,
    Use bloodwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocToxin8 View Post
    I think all sensible persons can agree that the longer you wait the better.
    If you could wait a year or two between each cycle then all the better.

    But most of us want to go back in ASAP, and for lack of any better gauge,
    Use bloodwork.
    Better for who amigo?

    For your heart and arteries yes but if that is what u want, then perhaps you should terminate your gymmembership, buy some good Nikes, and hit the mountains.

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    [QUOTE=Coffeehead;7281379]I'm planning out my 2nd cycle and was curious on what the earliest is I should start it. I read a lot of "CYCLE + PCT = Time OFF," but have also read that it's not as black and white as that, and it really depends on your bloodwork.

    If my BW comes back great and I'm only about 12-16 weeks removed (after a 20wk cycle including PCT), should I wait the additional 8 weeks, or should I be good to go?[/QUOTE

    There is an interesting caveat in this question, the difference between 12 and 16 weeks is quite large, 28 to 31 days according to Gregorian calendars. This thirty days could be a make or break grey area that would lead to the resolution of most of the responses posted thus far. If you aren't certain how far removed you are you should probably figure that out as you could be less than twelve weeks. Maybe I interpreted your question incorrectly though. Are you saying you haven't done blood work, you know exactly how long you have been off the AAS and when you do the bloodwork you will be somewhere between 12 and 16 weeks depending on when it is done? Sorry for the compound question but this may be an important fact for the knowledgeable members to respond to.

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