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    JoeyToronto is offline Junior Member
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    Test and natural levels

    Do you guys use Test even knowing you have healthy test levels? What would be the purpose to do Test if your body is producing good levels anyway?

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    The only reason to do that is if you have reached your genetic limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    The only reason to do that is if you have reached your genetic limit
    How would you know if you've reached your genetic limit or if you're workout/diet is off? OR a plateau?

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    Most people do not reach there limit before starting. You should have the bb look as you approach you limit. I was getting accused of being on cycle way before i started and my T levels were below 300 ng/dl

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    To be great lol. In all seriousness steroids are incredible and fun when used correctly. The problem is the amount of people that use but have no idea what they are doing.

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    I've been stuck at the same weights for awhile now, and I am no where near BB status. I eat, sleep enough and my natural T levels are at the higher end in the range, so I don't know what's up. I'm nearing 2 years since I've started weights and my shoulders are severely lacking and my arms are slowly, very slowly getting bigger. Maybe I should change to lower weights and more reps now as I've been doing heavy weights and less reps.
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    What are your stats?

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    Sounds like a diet issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    What are your stats?
    I don't weight myself, but I weigh more than I need to..lol...and more than I should, probably to much carbs and protein. Which I am changing tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Sounds like a diet issue.
    Hmm, I think I've been eating more than I should, I've gained weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyToronto View Post
    I don't weight myself, but I weigh more than I need to..lol...and more than I should, probably to much carbs and protein. Which I am changing tomorrow.
    What is your current bf%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    What is your current bf%
    I don't do that either, because there's no measurement than will give me accurate results. I heard the pinch calipers method is not good, the magnetic scales I heard are not accurate. So what is then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyToronto
    I don't do that either, because there's no measurement than will give me accurate results. I heard the pinch calipers method is not good, the magnetic scales I heard are not accurate. So what is then?
    well it must be a diet and training issue. Post up what you ate yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    well it must be a diet and training issue. Post up what you ate yesterday?
    Breakfast: 2 eggs, egg whites, slice of grain bread and some cream cheese.

    Pre Workout Snack:Granola/oats mix scoop of whey protein

    After Workout: Casein Protein/Whey Protein/banana

    Dinner: Vegetables (cucumber, radish, carrots) Breaded Chicken Filets with dip (homemade; yogurt, mayo and mustard mix).

    Pre Sleep Protein: Whey and Casein.

    But on weekdays I eat a more because for some reason at work I'm more hungry, so for snack between breakfast and lunch, since I eat breakfast at 6:30am, I eat grain bread with peanut butter and I tend to eat another one after lunch and then again when I'm driving home around 5pm before dinner. So that, I know I need to cut out, too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDToronto
    Breakfast: 2 eggs, egg whites, slice of grain bread and some cream cheese. Pre Workout Snack:Granola/oats mix scoop of whey protein After Workout: Casein Protein/Whey Protein/banana Dinner: Vegetables (cucumber, radish, carrots) Breaded Chicken Filets with dip (homemade; yogurt, mayo and mustard mix). Pre Sleep Protein: Whey and Casein.
    your not eating enough to grow. Hit the nutrition section copy and paste what you ate yesterday and those guys will help you grow like a weed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    your not eating enough to grow. Hit the nutrition section copy and paste what you ate yesterday and those guys will help you grow like a weed
    I told someone from some site what I eat and they said because I need to lose fat and weight I need to eat less. Btw, I edited my previous post I added what I eat during the week.

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    My levels were shit so trt helped to get back in a good range

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