Test and natural levels

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 05:21 PM

Do you guys use Test even knowing you have healthy test levels? What would be the purpose to do Test if your body is producing good levels anyway?

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 05:23 PM

The only reason to do that is if you have reached your genetic limit

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

The only reason to do that is if you have reached your genetic limit

How would you know if you've reached your genetic limit or if you're workout/diet is off? OR a plateau?

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 06:19 PM

Most people do not reach there limit before starting. You should have the bb look as you approach you limit. I was getting accused of being on cycle way before i started and my T levels were below 300 ng/dl

**redz** · 04-22-2017, 06:27 PM

To be great lol. In all seriousness steroids are incredible and fun when used correctly. The problem is the amount of people that use but have no idea what they are doing.

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 06:34 PM

I've been stuck at the same weights for awhile now, and I am no where near BB status. I eat, sleep enough and my natural T levels are at the higher end in the range, so I don't know what's up. I'm nearing 2 years since I've started weights and my shoulders are severely lacking and my arms are slowly, very slowly getting bigger. Maybe I should change to lower weights and more reps now as I've been doing heavy weights and less reps.

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 06:36 PM

What are your stats?

**redz** · 04-22-2017, 06:38 PM

Sounds like a diet issue.

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

What are your stats?

I don't weight myself, but I weigh more than I need to..lol...and more than I should, probably to much carbs and protein. Which I am changing tomorrow.

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Sounds like a diet issue.

Hmm, I think I've been eating more than I should, I've gained weight.

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyToronto

I don't weight myself, but I weigh more than I need to..lol...and more than I should, probably to much carbs and protein. Which I am changing tomorrow.

What is your current bf%

**JoeyToronto** · 04-22-2017, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

What is your current bf%

I don't do that either, because there's no measurement than will give me accurate results. I heard the pinch calipers method is not good, the magnetic scales I heard are not accurate. So what is then?

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by JoeyToronto

I don't do that either, because there's no measurement than will give me accurate results. I heard the pinch calipers method is not good, the magnetic scales I heard are not accurate. So what is then?

well it must be a diet and training issue. Post up what you ate yesterday?

**JDToronto** · 04-22-2017, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

well it must be a diet and training issue. Post up what you ate yesterday?

Breakfast: 2 eggs, egg whites, slice of grain bread and some cream cheese.

Pre Workout Snack:Granola/oats mix scoop of whey protein

After Workout: Casein Protein/Whey Protein/banana

Dinner: Vegetables (cucumber, radish, carrots) Breaded Chicken Filets with dip (homemade; yogurt, mayo and mustard mix).

Pre Sleep Protein: Whey and Casein.

But on weekdays I eat a more because for some reason at work I'm more hungry, so for snack between breakfast and lunch, since I eat breakfast at 6:30am, I eat grain bread with peanut butter and I tend to eat another one after lunch and then again when I'm driving home around 5pm before dinner. So that, I know I need to cut out, too much.

**Bio-Active** · 04-22-2017, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by JDToronto

Breakfast: 2 eggs, egg whites, slice of grain bread and some cream cheese. Pre Workout Snack:Granola/oats mix scoop of whey protein After Workout: Casein Protein/Whey Protein/banana Dinner: Vegetables (cucumber, radish, carrots) Breaded Chicken Filets with dip (homemade; yogurt, mayo and mustard mix). Pre Sleep Protein: Whey and Casein.

your not eating enough to grow. Hit the nutrition section copy and paste what you ate yesterday and those guys will help you grow like a weed

**JDToronto** · 04-22-2017, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bio-Active

your not eating enough to grow. Hit the nutrition section copy and paste what you ate yesterday and those guys will help you grow like a weed

I told someone from some site what I eat and they said because I need to lose fat and weight I need to eat less. Btw, I edited my previous post I added what I eat during the week.