Pip virgin.

[Nogbad the bad]

Had to happen really.
Second from last t400 jab on Saturday,no problems.Came from a multi,but was the second jab from that bottle.
Never had anything other than slight ache after a few hours,then gone,with all previous jabs.
This time though,although as i've said,no problem initially,Sunday morning still sore,and quite a bruise appearing.
Can feel it aching all day,but still not too bad.Monday morning,realised a horse had sneaked into my bedroom last
night,and stamped all over my leg.My quad is swollen,sore and black and blue.Struggle to walk all day,and when
folk ask whats up,i just said,"i got kicked by a horse last night,don't ask".Tuesday more or less the same,but today,
bruising fading,and pain receding.
Goes with the territory...welcome to the club boy.

[MuscleScience]

Yeah, it's not fun the first time or 4 lol

[hammerheart]

T400? High dosed gear is notorious for the PIP.

[jvett]

My guess is you nicked a vein when injecting in conjunction with the gear as stated above. Checkout some diagrams of the body and ensure you are injecting into an area free of veins. Always swab the bottle and yourself with alcohol to minimize potential for infection. Heat, swelling, and hardness are things to look out for. Remember to inject slowly allowing the muscle to absorb the solution vs forcing it in too fast. Needles should be min 1" dependent on injection site. Always rub the area afterwards to assist the solution in entering the muscle as evenly as possible. Not sure what esther you are using, but if it is slow acting such as C or E it may help to split into 2 doses. Less shock to the muscle and more even release of the test.

[ScotchGuard02]

It happens. Hang in there. No soccer for a few days.

[Nogbad the bad]

My guess is you nicked a vein when injecting in conjunction with the gear as stated above. Checkout some diagrams of the body and ensure you are injecting into an area free of veins. Always swab the bottle and yourself with alcohol to minimize potential for infection. Heat, swelling, and hardness are things to look out for. Remember to inject slowly allowing the muscle to absorb the solution vs forcing it in too fast. Needles should be min 1" dependent on injection site. Always rub the area afterwards to assist the solution in entering the muscle as evenly as possible. Not sure what esther you are using, but if it is slow acting such as C or E it may help to split into 2 doses. Less shock to the muscle and more even release of the test.

With all due respect,i am completely familiar with the right protocol,when it comes to injecting a substance into my body.
If i wasn't,i simply wouldn't do it.

[Nogbad the bad]

T400? High dosed gear is notorious for the PIP.

I've heard that also,yet that is what i've used for my cycle,without any problems previously.
I suppose shit just happens!

[hammerheart]

I suppose shit just happens!

With UGL gear? All of the time mate.

[Nogbad the bad]

It happens. Hang in there. No soccer for a few days.

It's ok bud,it hasn't put me off.

[Nogbad the bad]

With UGL gear? All of the time mate.

Exactly,and to be fair,i've got to expect it sooner or later.
All part of lifes rich tapestry,as they say!

[Nogbad the bad]

Took the pooch for a walk this evening.Must've resembled Frankensteins monster,the way i ambled along lol!

[PT1982]

Yeah, it's not fun the first time or 4 lol

Lol. That's the dang truth!

[PT1982]

Quads can be a pain for some regardless of virgin muscle or not. I used to have no problems and now I can't use quads at all. Many, if not most, like the quads and won't have any problems.

[songdog]

Pain is good extreme pain is extremely good !

[Obs]

T400? High dosed gear is notorious for the PIP.

Yep.
Propionate gets me sore as hell regardless.

Quads can be a pain for some regardless of virgin muscle or not. I used to have no problems and now I can't use quads at all. Many, if not most, like the quads and won't have any problems.

If I got toilet hugging drunk, I still wouldn't be able to pin quads. Anywhere but there.

[PT1982]

Yep.
Propionate gets me sore as hell regardless.



If I got toilet hugging drunk, I still wouldn't be able to pin quads. Anywhere but there.

Same here. I'll never try pinning anywhere while drunk though ��. I used to have 0 issues, but now I cant walk a couple days after.

[Couchlock]

Damn OP, your hand must be strong to convince a virgin to walk the track for you

Pimping virgins ain't easy, mad props to ya.