So... how common is deca dick at lower dosages ?

**bowhunter1775** · 05-03-2017, 08:51 PM

The more I read the more I wonder if it is worth it. 280mg of Test per week from clinic. Was going to stack deca at 250 per week for 12 weeks. Not wanting to really drastic, just pick up some size and strength. I'm 51 so I would think I might be more at risk?

**MuscleScience** · 05-03-2017, 09:00 PM

Nah, should be fine at that dose.

**Obs** · 05-03-2017, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Nah, should be fine at that dose.

I agree. I didnt see any issues until prolonged use at over 400mg. Keep some cabergoline on hand. Also, it is my favorite compound. If you have arthritis, you will love it.

**Marcus G** · 05-04-2017, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by bowhunter1775

The more I read the more I wonder if it is worth it. 280mg of Test per week from clinic. Was going to stack deca at 250 per week for 12 weeks. Not wanting to really drastic, just pick up some size and strength. I'm 51 so I would think I might be more at risk?

You could run npp so that if you do get that issue it take less time to resolve

**FONZY007** · 05-04-2017, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Marcus G

You could run npp so that if you do get that issue it take less time to resolve

I get npp dick but no deca dick weird huh

**Marcus G** · 05-04-2017, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

I get npp dick but no deca dick weird huh

That is weird what dose and length do you run on npp?

**Obs** · 05-04-2017, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

I get npp dick but no deca dick weird huh

That is weird especially since you are getting more nandrolone with npp than deca . Not much more but still strange. Posting the little chart below because I like it.
100mg Testosterone Suspension (un-esterified Testosterone ) = 100mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Acetate = 83mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Propionate = 80mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Isocaproate = 72mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Enanthate = 70mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Cypionate = 69mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate = 66mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Decanoate = 62mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Undecanoate = 61mg Testosterone

100mg Trenbolone Acetate = 87mg Trenbolone
100mg Trenbolone Enanthate = 70mg Trenbolone
100mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate = 70mg Trenbolone

100mg Nandrolone Phenylpropionate = 67mg Nandrolone
100mg Nandrolone Decanoate = 64mg Nandrolone

100mg Drostanolone Propionate = 80mg Drostanolone
100mg Drostanolone Enanthate = 70mg Drostanolone

**kelkel** · 05-04-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by bowhunter1775

The more I read the more I wonder if it is worth it. 280mg of Test per week from clinic. Was going to stack deca at 250 per week for 12 weeks. Not wanting to really drastic, just pick up some size and strength. I'm 51 so I would think I might be more at risk?

How did you land at 280 mgs test per week? It's way over any normal TRT dose. Why not just add more test?

**bowhunter1775** · 05-04-2017, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

How did you land at 280 mgs test per week? It's way over any normal TRT dose. Why not just add more test?

Mens clinic. I asked them to up it from 240 to 280. He offered a script of HCG also. I have seen lowered testicular function and size. No loss of sex drive or ability.

**Ashop** · 05-06-2017, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by bowhunter1775

The more I read the more I wonder if it is worth it. 280mg of Test per week from clinic. Was going to stack deca at 250 per week for 12 weeks. Not wanting to really drastic, just pick up some size and strength. I'm 51 so I would think I might be more at risk?

You shouldn't have any problems at 250mg per week,,especially since your using some testosterone .

**kelkel** · 05-06-2017, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by bowhunter1775

Mens clinic. I asked them to up it from 240 to 280. He offered a script of HCG also. I have seen lowered testicular function and size. No loss of sex drive or ability.

Clinic explains it. Hopefully you took them up on the offer of HCG ?

**bowhunter1775** · 05-06-2017, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Clinic explains it. Hopefully you took them up on the offer of HCG?

I will. Had full fasting bloodwork Friday. I think my Estro may a little high too. Feeling a little "emotional".

**kelkel** · 05-06-2017, 09:15 PM

Well at that TRT dose you'd definitly need an AI which I assume they prescribed....

**Grappler13** · 05-07-2017, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Clinic explains it. Hopefully you took them up on the offer of HCG?

Yes. Use that HCG . My balls went awol at about week 20 of my last blast and it took me about one and a half months of pretty heavy hcg use to get them back. Much better now.

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**Elvishk** · 05-07-2017, 08:58 PM

i used 500mg deca per week and got a bit deca dick, but i think it will be fully recovered. if you want to gain muscle, don't think too much on the side effect. otherwise, please do natual.

**bowhunter1775** · 05-14-2017, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Well at that TRT dose you'd definitly need an AI which I assume they prescribed....

I am on .5 mg of Anastrozole weekly now.

**canadian77** · 05-14-2017, 07:37 PM

Never had Deca dick but I had serious Tren dick.

I brought a girl over for a one night stand and she was so horny and my damn dick would not work and I couldn't ejaculate either. My body hates progestins..... but Tren more so than anything. But I gain muscle like crazy on it....

So it's a hard decision to make. Do I want to be physically beast like for 12 weeks but unable to have any sex or slightly less beast like and be able to pump for 2 hours on Test. Hmmmmm......

Sorry Tren, never again.

**Obs** · 05-14-2017, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by canadian77

Never had Deca dick but I had serious Tren dick.

I brought a girl over for a one night stand and she was so horny and my damn dick would not work and I couldn't ejaculate either. My body hates progestins..... but Tren more so than anything. But I gain muscle like crazy on it....

So it's a hard decision to make. Do I want to be physically beast like for 12 weeks but unable to have any sex or slightly less beast like and be able to pump for 2 hours on Test. Hmmmmm......

Sorry Tren, never again.

I would choose the beast over the puss. Every time.

**DocToxin8** · 05-14-2017, 11:03 PM

I've never had either Deca or tren dick,
and I've never used caber or any prolactin supressive drugs.
As long as E2 is kept in check and some T is floating around I think 19-Nors aren't any problem in the bedroom, except tren ace cause more heat and lowers cardio capacity.

**hammerheart** · 05-15-2017, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by canadian77

Never had Deca dick but I had serious Tren dick.

I brought a girl over for a one night stand and she was so horny and my damn dick would not work and I couldn't ejaculate either. My body hates progestins..... but Tren more so than anything. But I gain muscle like crazy on it....

So it's a hard decision to make. Do I want to be physically beast like for 12 weeks but unable to have any sex or slightly less beast like and be able to pump for 2 hours on Test. Hmmmmm......

Sorry Tren, never again.

I love progestins. I've tried Tren last fall and was flabbergasted, I kept taking a prog-only bc pill when off because it helps a lot with libido (virtually absent without), mood and well-being.

**Chicagotarsier** · 05-15-2017, 04:08 AM

Controlling E2 at a constant level really helps when it comes to normal libido. The moment I get an estrogen spike the issues start. This is also why I love Aromasin . It will basically only impact a certain percent of estrogen at dose and to lower beyond that you have to triple or more the dose.

Never had DecaDik but my dose was 150 for joint maintenance.

Tren E at 50-100 a week and TrT dose Test is my sweet spot. A tad of Cialis and you best have your girl locked up safe. On test only TrT libido was less than normal but acceptable.

**kelkel** · 05-15-2017, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

Tren E at 50-100 a week and TrT dose Test is my sweet spot.

TRT test and low dose Tren -A (100 ish) works wonders for me. My HDL doesn't appreciate it though....

**canadian77** · 05-15-2017, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

I kept taking a prog-only bc pill when off because it helps a lot with libido (virtually absent without)

Wait... you took a progesterone only birth control pill for libido while on Tren ? And it actually worked?

**canadian77** · 05-15-2017, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

Controlling E2 at a constant level really helps when it comes to normal libido. The moment I get an estrogen spike the issues start. This is also why I love Aromasin . It will basically only impact a certain percent of estrogen at dose and to lower beyond that you have to triple or more the dose.

Never had DecaDik but my dose was 150 for joint maintenance.

Tren E at 50-100 a week and TrT dose Test is my sweet spot. A tad of Cialis and you best have your girl locked up safe. On test only TrT libido was less than normal but acceptable.

What dose are you using for Cialis? Does it give you the same dizzy, floaters, headache stuff that Viagra does?

**hammerheart** · 05-15-2017, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by canadian77

Wait... you took a progesterone only birth control pill for libido while on Tren? And it actually worked?

Nope I went on Tren after years of TRT only and it was amazing. After dropping it, I was curious whether the improvements I experienced depended from Tren as a progestin or as a strong androgen, hence I experimented with an oral progestin, desogestrel. That somewhat brought the same effects in the regard of libido and mood. I guess deca might also behave in the same manner, never tried it.

About libido, I feel the are different components to it. As for me progestin seems to account for the hedonic part ie. the actual enjoyment of the thing, while only high androgens can restore the "raw pulsion", intended as the sole drive to stick in there, a pretty dull and poor instinct I must say but I actually never had this even before developing low T.

**hammerheart** · 05-15-2017, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by canadian77

What dose are you using for Cialis? Does it give you the same dizzy, floaters, headache stuff that Viagra does?

Never tried viagra but cialis I only got dizzy the very first time I took 5mg then never again, even after discontinuing for several weeks or upping dose.

**canadian77** · 05-15-2017, 05:30 PM

Thanks for your answers.

**bowhunter1775** · 05-19-2017, 08:34 PM

So it looks like HCG is about $130.00 for 3 month supply. True? Does it last 3 months once mixed?

**hollywoodundead2016** · 05-21-2017, 12:00 PM

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**sumpm1** · 06-01-2017, 06:20 PM

The old "deca dick" scare comes from very old and bad information. The early BB used deca only cycles!!! They didn't have the hormone knowledge even hobbyists have now. Deca is super suppressive, and likely these guys ended up with super low test levels. Since test is the sex hormone, they lost sexual function, thus "deca dick."

If you are taking test with deca, there is little to worry about with sexual function.

Also, your deca dosage is very low. So you are not in dangerous territory.

**Quester** · 06-01-2017, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by bowhunter1775

So it looks like HCG is about $130.00 for 3 month supply. True? Does it last 3 months once mixed?

Mix vials one at a time and keep all in the fridge. Also, probably a good idea to have bac water at same temp as hcg when mixing.

**Obs** · 06-01-2017, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by sumpm1

The old "deca dick" scare comes from very old and bad information. The early BB used deca only cycles!!! They didn't have the hormone knowledge even hobbyists have now. Deca is super suppressive, and likely these guys ended up with super low test levels. Since test is the sex hormone, they lost sexual function, thus "deca dick."

If you are taking test with deca, there is little to worry about with sexual function.

Also, your deca dosage is very low. So you are not in dangerous territory.

I have had deca dick because deca is a loooong esther and test cyp is short. If you end test injections too soon the you will get a terrible ed that lasts months. Deca os my favorite aas but all must learn its tendancies or they will suffer.
I experienced anorgasmia on test at 750mg wk and deva at 400. High esteogen followed by high prolactin.