Do Steroids have to be a lifetime proposition?

**208audi** · 05-04-2017, 01:46 PM

I'm thinking about running a basic cycle of Test E in the next couple of months. I'ver thought a lot about the pros and cons and I feel like the only thing that is stopping me from moving forward, the only consequence that is NOT acceptable for me, is the idea that:

1. Running 1 or 2 cycles is worthless as I'll loose all/most of the gains within 6 months following the cycle.

2. That even running a reasonable 500 mg Test e only cycle could smash my natural test for life.

So, do you feel that steroids are a lifetime proposition?

**Scottishjuicer18** · 05-04-2017, 04:58 PM

Steroids aren't for everyone. I had great strength increases on a test cycle with some dbol . But now I've finished the cycle and came off PCT, I feel more depressed than ever - no motivation to train, eat or look after myself at all.

Might sound a bit over the top but steroids really fucked me up and I won't be cycling them ever again. The only way i would use again is if I blast/cruise/TRT them for the rest of my life.

**Marcus G** · 05-04-2017, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Scottishjuicer18

Steroids aren't for everyone. I had great strength increases on a test cycle with some dbol . But now I've finished the cycle and came off PCT, I feel more depressed than ever - no motivation to train, eat or look after myself at all.

Might sound a bit over the top but steroids really fucked me up and I won't be cycling them ever again. The only way i would use again is if I blast/cruise/TRT them for the rest of my life.

How old was you when you started your cycle?

**Scottishjuicer18** · 05-05-2017, 12:23 AM

24 Markus. My one and only cycle. My T levels were border line low before cycle tho

**MuscleScience** · 05-05-2017, 12:31 AM

There is definitely an art to coming off, keeping gains and getting to the next cycle. At first I didn't keep gains real well, after awhile though I got it dialed in and experience minimal loss. There is a theory in the science with some evidence that once Cycle, your muscles permanently show an enhancement over baseline. That is one reason that sports governing agencies push for longer
Bans for PED's users. How much is this effect is a matter of debate.

**Obs** · 05-05-2017, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by 208audi

I'm thinking about running a basic cycle of Test E in the next couple of months. I'ver thought a lot about the pros and cons and I feel like the only thing that is stopping me from moving forward, the only consequence that is NOT acceptable for me, is the idea that:

1. Running 1 or 2 cycles is worthless as I'll loose all/most of the gains within 6 months following the cycle.

2. That even running a reasonable 500 mg Test e only cycle could smash my natural test for life.

So, do you feel that steroids are a lifetime proposition?

It could possibly cause your test levels to never fully return to what they were before. 1-2 cycles you can probably keep as much gain as you choose unless you have reached your genetic potential in which case you will eventually lose those gains no matter how much you strive to keep them.

I am about to marry aas and blast and cruise to my limit because i do not any longer care for PCT and it doesnt suit my goals.

I think basically you need to ask yourself what you want out of it. What goals do you have? If you are simply trying to put on 40 lbs of muscle, you probably dont need aas. If you are trying to get so big you can't wipe your ass then I suggest going in but go into it like this relationship could get serious.
You might fall in love with this lady, she is a temptress. You better get comfortable with snuggling with a girl that could turn out to be a dirty little whore. She can also be a little bitch if you progress through 6-7 cycles and start 19 nors.

There are pros and cons brother, just give it a lot of thought, in my opinion.

**Brian Earl Spilner** · 05-05-2017, 06:49 PM

This is also something I'm concerned with as I'm pondering my first cycle and feel that I am already more or less at my genetic limit. Can one cycle really effect your test level to the point that it will not ever fully return?

For guys that cycle, do you typically just run 2-3 cycles per year and do you feel like you can continue to progress like that way?

**Obs** · 05-05-2017, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Brian Earl Spilner

This is also something I'm concerned with as I'm pondering my first cycle and feel that I am already more or less at my genetic limit. Can one cycle really effect your test level to the point that it will not ever fully return?

For guys that cycle, do you typically just run 2-3 cycles per year and do you feel like you can continue to progress like that way?

I could continually gain with three cycles very well and still do it with two.
In my opinion, the odds of once cycle totally wrecking your test levels permanently, is very low. Provided the cycle is ran properly.
Some damage is always possible as people react differently.

**Sh0tsf1red** · 05-05-2017, 07:55 PM

I'm on TRT from my doctor, took a few years to get to that point. I didn't want to hear that I wasn't producing enough of the male hormone! I had never considered AAS until after I started the TRT injections. I had dropped a tone of fat and put on a ton of muscle with just the TRT so I wanted to see where I could take it, I figured I had already crossed the threshold of injecting chemicals into my body. AAS was a GREAT fit for me because with the TRT I keep almost all of my gains, strength and size. Every cycle is better than the last. For me, with my circumstance, I hope AAS is a part of my life for many years to come.

LONG LIVE KING TREN !

**kelkel** · 05-05-2017, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Scottishjuicer18

My T levels were border line low before cycle tho

Maybe that's the actual problem SJ.

**AR's King Silabolin** · 05-05-2017, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by 208audi

I'm thinking about running a basic cycle of Test E in the next couple of months. I'ver thought a lot about the pros and cons and I feel like the only thing that is stopping me from moving forward, the only consequence that is NOT acceptable for me, is the idea that:

1. Running 1 or 2 cycles is worthless as I'll loose all/most of the gains within 6 months following the cycle.

2. That even running a reasonable 500 mg Test e only cycle could smash my natural test for life.

So, do you feel that steroids are a lifetime proposition?

How can it be worthless even if u loose it all?
Ull have the greatest time ever this summer.
Man. Ive red about everyday life americans. They work and save a hole year just to afford on weekend in Vegas as a player, leaving their wife and boring life at home.

Your natty test may lower a bit but nothing dramatic.
Anyway. There is always trt and when u turn 45 everybody would be better off with it and then your hpta dont mean shit.