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    Back to back cycles

    I've got 10 days left of PCT. Did a 9.5 week cycle of cypionate at 280/week and bumped it up to 300 for the final 3 weeks, which is when things really started to get going. Anyways, I ended the cycle early because of work related matters and I just didn't want to have to deal with AAS while traveling.

    I wanted to do another cycle a few weeks after I wrap up PCT. I was thinking about marrying my fiancée and I would like to be jacked and tan when/if I do. This was my second cycle. 36 years old. Training since 17. What do you guys think? Is this feasible or am I asking for trouble cycling back to back? I know about the time on/time off rule,.Planned on doing 300 week straight through

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    I've got 10 days left of PCT. Did a 9.5 week cycle of cypionate at 280/week and bumped it up to 300 for the final 3 weeks, which is when things really started to get going. Anyways, I ended the cycle early because of work related matters and I just didn't want to have to deal with AAS while traveling.

    I wanted to do another cycle a few weeks after I wrap up PCT. I was thinking about marrying my fiancée and I would like to be jacked and tan when/if I do. This was my second cycle. 36 years old. Training since 17. What do you guys think? Is this feasible or am I asking for trouble cycling back to back? I know about the time on/time off rule,.Planned on doing 300 week straight through
    If you want to have children with your fiancé then you need to have time off
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    I've got 10 days left of PCT. Did a 9.5 week cycle of cypionate at 280/week and bumped it up to 300 for the final 3 weeks, which is when things really started to get going. Anyways, I ended the cycle early because of work related matters and I just didn't want to have to deal with AAS while traveling.

    I wanted to do another cycle a few weeks after I wrap up PCT. I was thinking about marrying my fiancée and I would like to be jacked and tan when/if I do. This was my second cycle. 36 years old. Training since 17. What do you guys think? Is this feasible or am I asking for trouble cycling back to back? I know about the time on/time off rule,.Planned on doing 300 week straight through
    A Cyp cycle normally runs 12 weeks to 14 weeks. I wouldn't recommend a back to back cycle. It's not healthy. If you want be ripped, I would suggest cleaner diet and some cardio with your weight training.
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    We want children. I used HCG on cycle.

    If I do this cycle again, I will probably stay off until next summer
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    You got the answer to your question so if you are going too run it any ways why did you ask? And it don't matter if you ran HCG or not you need time off and blood work will tell you when you are ready.

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    The HCG doesn't guarantee male fertility, right? I get all of my test and ancillaries from a rejuvenation clinic (though I am not on TRT) and the doc said it guaranteed fertility. I had a feeling he was stretching the truth. He told me how he had children after years of abusing test and now being on TRT. Eh...who knows if he was telling me the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    The HCG doesn't guarantee male fertility, right? I get all of my test and ancillaries from a rejuvenation clinic (though I am not on TRT) and the doc said it guaranteed fertility. I had a feeling he was stretching the truth. He told me how he had children after years of abusing test and now being on TRT. Eh...who knows if he was telling me the truth
    There are no gurantees. If you are serious about having kids you better wait to cycle anyway. I had kids after cycles with no hcg and very little pct, thats called lucky.
    I was discussing this ten years ago on this forum and now I look at my youngest two and wonder what I would be without them. My kid making days are done, but I remember being in your shoes thinking "aw, fuck it" and cycling anyway.
    It may or may not make you sterile hcg or not. Point is you ate playing roulette with the greatest thing that could ever happen to you.
    If you run cycles back to back, consider each cycle another bullet in the six shot cylinder.
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    She actually got pregnant while I was on cycle. Lost the fetus though

    I know back to back cycles is not the norm. It was test only though. I feel a bit shortchanged on the last cycle since I had to end it abruptly 9.5 weeks in. I wanted to do 14 weeks. I'll get bloodwork soon regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    She actually got pregnant while I was on cycle. Lost the fetus though

    I know back to back cycles is not the norm. It was test only though. I feel a bit shortchanged on the last cycle since I had to end it abruptly 9.5 weeks in. I wanted to do 14 weeks. I'll get bloodwork soon regardless
    I have my personal opinions about cycling long cycles back to back that I wont get into.
    You are running low dosages which is good but the longer you stay shut down the harder it is to come back. At your age I would test for swimmers and freeze it.
    I know the feeling though, I wish I could blast forever but after a while you have to up dosages to acquire gains and after long enough of that the side effects get worse and worse.
    Here is what too long gets you and I got a little bit worse than this but I would rather not say.
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    Look at the acne toward the end of two heavy cycles, you will have to zoom in on the first pic.
    Now look at it in the second, thats now.
    My skin got so oily it was sickening
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    Honestly, you shouldn't have even ran pct if you planned to jump right back on. Since you are almost finished with pct, stick to the original plan and let your body recoup and rest. You'll be better off in the long run. Get bloodwork done several weeks after pct to see where you're at. Time on=time off. That's the general consensus and I concur. Nothing wrong with blast and cruise, but in doing that, pct can lead to issues. And blasting and cruising is not for the weekend warrior gym rat. Its best left to guys on trt, competitors, or mentally retarded individuals. Stick to the plan and then research of the blast and cruise protocol is for you. Based off the last cycle, it seems there was not much research done by you. So get this nailed down and really consider everything both long and short term before deciding. Good luck to you.
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    Hcg won't guarantee fertility.
    But an endo I used who got a lot of juicers as clients said that many was able to get children even with heavy AAS use.

    It's quite simple really.
    There's a risk involved, and nobody really knows the exact risk or if using 5 compounds in a cycle or a test only cycle differs in risk.

    Can you get away with it?
    Considering you can also use fertility drugs later and spend a lot of money, time and frustration on it as well, I'd say chances are good you'll eventually get kids whatever you do.
    But what if u don't?

    Not only risk vs rewards here; but the type of risk matters.
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    Ben Pakulski who is a major juicer for decades recently had kids..... just saying....

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    If i was intent on having children with someone,i wouldn't take steroids full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian77 View Post
    Ben Pakulski who is a major juicer for decades recently had kids..... just saying....
    And everyone is different there are no guarantees in aas.
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    I did research, and I've cycled before at 33. I took a 2.5 year break from aas and recently ran test again. I'm not the most knowledgeable guy, but I have a good grasp. I guess I'll just play it by ear. If anything I'll just cycle again in September after 16 weeks off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982 View Post
    Honestly, you shouldn't have even ran pct if you planned to jump right back on. Since you are almost finished with pct, stick to the original plan and let your body recoup and rest. You'll be better off in the long run. Get bloodwork done several weeks after pct to see where you're at. Time on=time off. That's the general consensus and I concur. Nothing wrong with blast and cruise, but in doing that, pct can lead to issues. And blasting and cruising is not for the weekend warrior gym rat. Its best left to guys on trt, competitors, or mentally retarded individuals. Stick to the plan and then research of the blast and cruise protocol is for you. Based off the last cycle, it seems there was not much research done by you. So get this nailed down and really consider everything both long and short term before deciding. Good luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    You got the answer to your question so if you are going too run it any ways why did you ask? And it don't matter if you ran HCG or not you need time off and blood work will tell you when you are ready.
    No. If his only wish is to look good at his wedding, he could do things outside the book. At his level, it will not kill him. He just need 4 weeks. With propionate and tbol/lgd/var/ and hcg /cialis for the weeding nigth. Then start pct 3 days after last shot. Then a 8 month break. Before he slides into our book again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin
    No. If his only wish is to look good at his wedding, he could do things outside the book. At his level, it will not kill him. He just need 4 weeks. With propionate and tbol/lgd/var/ and hcg/cialis for the weeding nigth. Then start pct 3 days after last shot. Then a 8 month break. Before he slides into our book again.
    My clinic doesn't have prop. I actually wanted to do a full 12 week cycle of cyp at 300/week. I could try to get prop elsewhere along with var. never ran anything but test. I figured I could take a 10 month break if I did it. I am intrigued by your 4 week cycle though

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    My clinic doesn't have prop. I actually wanted to do a full 12 week cycle of cyp at 300/week. I could try to get prop elsewhere along with var. never ran anything but test. I figured I could take a 10 month break if I did it. I am intrigued by your 4 week cycle though
    Buddy, please don't be intriged by anything he suggests. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982 View Post
    Buddy, please don't be intriged by anything he suggests. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
    hehe...a broken heart.
    And im married too. Ur not.

    Your feelings are nothing but air, as always..no beaf there,.....or anywhere lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    My clinic doesn't have prop. I actually wanted to do a full 12 week cycle of cyp at 300/week. I could try to get prop elsewhere along with var. never ran anything but test. I figured I could take a 10 month break if I did it. I am intrigued by your 4 week cycle though
    A Test Cyp only cycle is plenty good. Cyp is my ester of choice. It hurts less than Prop and I get good results. I just get the feeling you're rushing into something when you really don't have to. You're young and have LOTS of time to cycle. Concentrate on starting a family first, you will be much happier with a firm family over a firm six pack.

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    Stick with whatever works for you.
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    Ok. Here's my story. I my first cycle I ran an 18 month cycle. Did a few shows. Wife wants to get pregnant. I didn't run hcg or dex. Did 1500 of hcg over3 days and normal pct. we try to get pregnant. Nothing for months. I get tested. My sperm are deformed. Two heads or two tails. Low numbers and sluggish. About 6-8 months later we do get pregnant and I have a 6 yr old son now. I was lucky. It's a bad feeling knowing what you did may cost you from having a child.

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    I'm going to hold off on another cycle for now. Time on = time off. You guys are right.

    I like the idea of using prop the next time around though. I always had a little trouble with my hemoglobin and crit. Couple of bros told me that it's not as hard on blood counts since it doesn't readily accumulate in your system like cyp. Any truth to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike198 View Post
    I'm going to hold off on another cycle for now. Time on = time off. You guys are right.

    I like the idea of using prop the next time around though. I always had a little trouble with my hemoglobin and crit. Couple of bros told me that it's not as hard on blood counts since it doesn't readily accumulate in your system like cyp. Any truth to that?
    Glad to hear you are waiting.

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