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05-15-2017, 06:24 PM #1Junior Member
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First tren a run. Length. Dosage. Should you taper up?
For someone who is going to do a 1st time tren ace Cycle...along with 250mg test p pw.
Caber .5mg 2x/week and adex .5 EOD
How long would you advise the Cycle to last?
Is 10 weeks okay?
I know 1cc EOD is standard protocol (350mg/week) but would you advise tapering up the dose from 250mg for 2 weeks, then try 300mg for 2 weeks, then try 350mg?
Or would you just start at 350mg/week?
Is this a good low to no sides dose?
Everyone says tren is the best, but sides can be nasty.
Already shredded when I start the Cycle
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05-15-2017, 06:34 PM #2
What happened to your 17 week cycle with EQ?
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05-15-2017, 06:39 PM #3
Do not taper 6 to 8 weeks with ace is good.
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05-15-2017, 06:43 PM #4Junior Member
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Thought about EQ but was worried about retaining water on it. For competition I know tren is the king of contest prep drugs. EQ next time. Worried about EQ and rbcs too
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05-15-2017, 06:44 PM #5Junior Member
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Why against the taper?
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Tren will dramatically increase your hematomcrit as well.
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05-15-2017, 07:53 PM #7
First time tren A run you do not need 350 mg's per week. Where is that the "standard" protocol?
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05-16-2017, 12:36 AM #8
My next cycle to help me get to 7%
Test prop 150mg pw on top of my TRT so approx 250mg pw
Tren ace 150mg pw
Maybe some var too.
Sometimes less is more. If you are already 'shredded' just go with 150mg pw, generally great results and no/limited side effects.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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05-16-2017, 04:04 AM #9Junior Member
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EQ won't put nearly the muscle tissue your looking for like nandrolone or Tren - just sayin'
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I think if you stick with 2-300mg/week you will be happy with the results. Since Tren binds so strongly to the androgen Receptor. It exerts its effect for longer than other compounds. Thus you physically need less to do the same work.
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05-16-2017, 10:16 AM #14
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05-16-2017, 01:36 PM #15
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05-16-2017, 01:54 PM #16
Gemelli is a little dweeb who makes money off the internet so take his advice with a grain of salt. Just look at him for gods sake. He has very little practical experience. And if by chance he is experienced then he sucks at his chosen sport.
For a first run I would not go over about 200 mgs. It's just not necessary considering how potent it is. If not prepping for a contest then there's really no reason to run an elevated dose, imho. I'll often run it at a little over 100 mgs pw with my TRT and make great gains.
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05-16-2017, 02:03 PM #17
ease into tren for first run.
You have the best advise in this thread.
Tren is not like any other, the sides are something to get used to.
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05-17-2017, 05:34 PM #18Junior Member
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This thread turned into hating on gemelli...lol
Okay so im thinking 200-300mg of tren ace for a first run, with 200mg test E.
Is Caber at .25mg e3d sufficient for tren at 300mg/week? Or would you go .5mg e3d?
I know Caber is hotly debated if anyone needs it or not. I figure it's probably safer to run it just in case your estrogen is high. (Should get bloods to dial in e2)
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05-17-2017, 05:36 PM #19
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05-17-2017, 07:00 PM #20
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Have Caber on hand for sure. I have probably done 10-15 19-nor cycles and never needed it until this last one. My prolactin went through the roof and I was miserable for weeks and weeks until I ordered it and got delivered. It's cheap insurance to have on hand.
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05-18-2017, 08:31 AM #22Junior Member
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