First cycle, I need some of your help.

**jonyz** · 06-02-2017, 11:50 PM

In a few months I'm going to start my first testosterone monocycle

It consists of test -E, with a dose of 250mg per week for 8 weeks, Do you think I will notice results with 250mg? Or 500mg for 8 weeks?

PCT, novaldex starting at week 2, 10mg per day.
Clomid, 2 weeks after finishing the cycle for 3 weeks. The first week 75mg per day, the second week 50mg per day and the third week 50mg per day.

Do you think I should use HCG at the end of the cycle?

**marcus300** · 06-03-2017, 01:12 AM

I think you need to do alot more research but before i answer your questions can you give us a bit more back ground.

How long have you been training for
How old are you?
What kind of training do you do?
Diet?
Stats?

Thanks

**Capebuffalo** · 06-03-2017, 05:41 AM

At 18 I advise you read this

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

**NACH3** · 06-03-2017, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I think you need to do alot more research but before i answer your questions can you give us a bit more back ground.

How long have you been training for
How old are you?
What kind of training do you do?
Diet?
Stats?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

At 18 I advise you read this

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html

Please answer these questions as it'll help us help you but one thing is for sure please do more research especially on half lifes and active life's etc but I don't condone in anyone yiur age taking hormones as you have plenty circulating in your blood stream(test being the highest it will be or close to it by now to the ages 22-25

**PT1982** · 06-03-2017, 12:17 PM

Bump, just because....

**NACH3** · 06-03-2017, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

Bump, just because....

Right? Where's OP...

**jonyz** · 06-03-2017, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I think you need to do alot more research but before i answer your questions can you give us a bit more back ground.

How long have you been training for
How old are you?
What kind of training do you do?
Diet?
Stats?

Thanks

Training for 3 years.
23 yo.
Stats: 187cm, 78kg, 10%bf.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-03-2017, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by jonyz

Training for 3 years.
23 yo.
Stats: 187cm, 78kg, 10%bf.

Your profile says 18.

**jonyz** · 06-03-2017, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Your profile says 18.

im from 1993. on sept 24.

**PT1982** · 06-03-2017, 05:58 PM

Are you guys going to tell him that 8 weeks of test E at 250-500mgs isn't worth the risk, or just let it slide?........ lol. I've got to say jonyz, I'd like to have a better feeling about this. Have you done some research on your own? And if so, can you lay out a plan that you would be confident in? I ask because Marcus (I think it's Marcus) has a sticky that literally lays out the ideal first cycle.

**jonyz** · 06-03-2017, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

Are you guys going to tell him that 8 weeks of test E at 250-500mgs isn't worth the risk, or just let it slide?........ lol. I've got to say jonyz, I'd like to have a better feeling about this. Have you done some research on your own? And if so, can you lay out a plan that you would be confident in? I ask because Marcus (I think it's Marcus) has a sticky that literally lays out the ideal first cycle.

If I do a lot of research on my own, I watch a lot of videos, read from various forums, ask my gym buddies, and I came to the conclusion of doing a testosterone unicycle with a dose of 500mg/w. That is why I ask if the cycle is well structured, and with respect to HCG dose, I will use 2 weeks after the last testosterone 1000UI / E3D to reach 5000UI.

**charger69** · 06-04-2017, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by PT1982

Are you guys going to tell him that 8 weeks of test E at 250-500mgs isn't worth the risk, or just let it slide?......

I was wondering the same thing. Thank you PT. LOL

**PT1982** · 06-04-2017, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by jonyz

If I do a lot of research on my own, I watch a lot of videos, read from various forums, ask my gym buddies, and I came to the conclusion of doing a testosterone unicycle with a dose of 500mg/w. That is why I ask if the cycle is well structured, and with respect to HCG dose, I will use 2 weeks after the last testosterone 1000UI / E3D to reach 5000UI.

Hcg needs used during the blast, not for pct. 8 weeks of test E is not long enough at the doses you are planning.

**Marcus G** · 06-04-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by jonyz

In a few months I'm going to start my first testosterone monocycle

It consists of test -E, with a dose of 250mg per week for 8 weeks, Do you think I will notice results with 250mg? Or 500mg for 8 weeks?

PCT, novaldex starting at week 2, 10mg per day.
Clomid, 2 weeks after finishing the cycle for 3 weeks. The first week 75mg per day, the second week 50mg per day and the third week 50mg per day.

Do you think I should use HCG at the end of the cycle?

18 years of age is to young to be using steroids ...

**Cupid** · 06-04-2017, 06:43 PM

If your actually 18 like your profile says, just know that the negatives will outweigh the positives for you.....if you want me to elaborate, let me know.

Otherwise...

If your going to cycle, 250mg per week of test is a retarded waste of money and time. 8 weeks is also a retarded waste of money and time unless your running Test Prop....but I highly doubt your going to want to pin yourself ED for your first cycle....nor would I recommend it when you don't have much experience with it.

Austinite wrong a great piece on how to plan your first cycle, find it and read it, it will answer your questions.

**PT1982** · 06-04-2017, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Marcus G

18 years of age is to young to be using steroids...

He claims he's 23 and that was a typo. I'm not sure about all of this to be honest.

**roidneedles** · 06-06-2017, 01:48 PM

Dude dbol only cycle is amazing first cycle.. idk why ppl are so against that. OR I'm hearing eq only cycles are the way to go now. AND 8 weeks is plenty of time dude just preload it the first week inject EOD and it'll kick in end of second week I do this every time I run a long ester.. BUT u need 500mgs dude. And anyone who's says I'm crazy just ask anyone they'll say the Same shit. So if ur running 500mgs a week. Here's the thing about gear, it's so fucking straight forward and simple that ppl on here nit pick anything. Shit it doesn't matter what u take ur first cycle ur gunna get shutdown unless ur young and have tons of t I didn't get shutdown my first cycle at 18. Anyway so with that said, dbol only, test only, anavar only, what's the difference. It's simple u take a more mild steroid ur first cycle to see how ur body handles androgens, and do a pct, and go from there.

**roidneedles** · 06-06-2017, 01:50 PM

And also ppl if he's 18 and has it in his head he's gunna take gear, then he's gunna, I did. So why not give him advice instead of trying to be his dad. This shot is a personal choice

**Jphunter** · 06-06-2017, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by jonyz

If I do a lot of research on my own, I watch a lot of videos, read from various forums, ask my gym buddies, and I came to the conclusion of doing a testosterone unicycle with a dose of 500mg/w. That is why I ask if the cycle is well structured, and with respect to HCG dose, I will use 2 weeks after the last testosterone 1000UI / E3D to reach 5000UI.

If you found information on running a long ester for only 8 weeks it was the wrong info , people write shit because people read shit . No less then 10 weeks , but you will find your most impressive results around 12 weeks . But none of that matters if your diet is not number one priority . Slow down read a little more . Your first cycle will be your best most likely so do it right and fallow everything to a T , in 2 years when you decide to run it : D

**Jphunter** · 06-06-2017, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by roidneedles

Dude dbol only cycle is amazing first cycle.. idk why ppl are so against that. OR I'm hearing eq only cycles are the way to go now. AND 8 weeks is plenty of time dude just preload it the first week inject EOD and it'll kick in end of second week I do this every time I run a long ester.. BUT u need 500mgs dude. And anyone who's says I'm crazy just ask anyone they'll say the Same shit. So if ur running 500mgs a week. Here's the thing about gear, it's so fucking straight forward and simple that ppl on here nit pick anything. Shit it doesn't matter what u take ur first cycle ur gunna get shutdown unless ur young and have tons of t I didn't get shutdown my first cycle at 18. Anyway so with that said, dbol only, test only, anavar only, what's the difference. It's simple u take a more mild steroid ur first cycle to see how ur body handles androgens, and do a pct, and go from there.

No , Dbol only is actual a Terrible cycle 1 st 2 nd or 3 rd . You should really think before you type because you sound pretty foolish .

**charger69** · 06-06-2017, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by roidneedles

Dude dbol only cycle is amazing first cycle.. idk why ppl are so against that. OR I'm hearing eq only cycles are the way to go now. AND 8 weeks is plenty of time dude just preload it the first week inject EOD and it'll kick in end of second week I do this every time I run a long ester.. BUT u need 500mgs dude. And anyone who's says I'm crazy just ask anyone they'll say the Same shit. So if ur running 500mgs a week. Here's the thing about gear, it's so fucking straight forward and simple that ppl on here nit pick anything. Shit it doesn't matter what u take ur first cycle ur gunna get shutdown unless ur young and have tons of t I didn't get shutdown my first cycle at 18. Anyway so with that said, dbol only, test only, anavar only, what's the difference. It's simple u take a more mild steroid ur first cycle to see how ur body handles androgens, and do a pct, and go from there.

With all due respect, you really need more education before you continue to give "advice". You didn't get shut down your first cycle??? Really?