8 weeks into cycle feel nothing??

I'm 8 weeks into a 10 week cycle of test E 250, 1ml twice a week.

This is my second cycle and I feel nothing other than a bit fatter and bloated.

Last cycle (exactly the same but different lab) I felt great at this point I was stronger, leaner, getting hard all the time, felt amazing in myself.

This time I feel worse than normal! No strengh gains, tierd all the time, no motivation to train, feel aches and ill a lot, only thing I notice is pain from injections.

What should I do as I'm thinking this is dud stuff. I've not had a blood test as my next appointment isn't for three weeks?

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Originally Posted by Complete novice

I'm 8 weeks into a 10 week cycle of test E 250, 1ml twice a week.

This is my second cycle and I feel nothing other than a bit fatter and bloated.

Last cycle (exactly the same but different lab) I felt great at this point I was stronger, leaner, getting hard all the time, felt amazing in myself.

This time I feel worse than normal! No strengh gains, tierd all the time, no motivation to train, feel aches and ill a lot, only thing I notice is pain from injections.

What should I do as I'm thinking this is dud stuff. I've not had a blood test as my next appointment isn't for three weeks?

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Reputable lab?


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Not sure if if allowed to post names so please let me know if I need to remove. It is Primus Ray Labs, came in sealed box of 10 Ampules, everything I read was fine but it seams like you never know what your getting!!

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Originally Posted by Complete novice

Not sure if if allowed to post names so please let me know if I need to remove. It is Primus Ray Labs, came in sealed box of 10 Ampules, everything I read was fine but it seams like you never know what your getting!!

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Any AI or hCG?
Any blood work?

Have you gained weight?

Was having armidex 0.5 every 3 days, but stopped to see if there was any change, no HCG was going to wait till end of cycle, gained weight but feels like pure fat! As not as defined and no more strength, feel like my test levels have dropped if anything

what kind of diet are you following?

be honest on this one.

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Originally Posted by Complete novice

Was having armidex 0.5 every 3 days, but stopped to see if there was any change, no HCG was going to wait till end of cycle, gained weight but feels like pure fat! As not as defined and no more strength, feel like my test levels have dropped if anything

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Hcg be going from day one to 3db4 pct

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Originally Posted by Mooseman33

what kind of diet are you following?

be honest on this one.

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That's exactly what I was thinking Moose! First thing that came to mind...

OP - why dex only e3days? It's half life isn't long enough... how much test are you running?

Diet all along has been 2000 cals, 225g pro, the remaining cals are split between carbs and fat, I kept my cals the same on first cycle and had good results. With a cheat MEAL once a week!

Don't smoke, drink or take drugs.

Train 4days a week upper/lower split.

Haven't taken HCG as didn't last time.

Had bloods before I started, just in the normal range, not due another till 3 weeks as first posted.

Amount taking 1ml of test E 250 Monday and Thursday as first posted.

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Originally Posted by Complete novice

Diet all along has been 2000 cals, 225g pro, the remaining cals are split between carbs and fat, I kept my cals the same on first cycle and had good results. With a cheat MEAL once a week!

Don't smoke, drink or take drugs.

Train 4days a week upper/lower split.

Haven't taken HCG as didn't last time.

Had bloods before I started, just in the normal range, not due another till 3 weeks as first posted.

Amount taking 1ml of test E 250 Monday and Thursday as first posted.

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Any gains you get from 2000 calories will be water weight IMHO.
2000 calories at 95kg???? I eat about 3500 calories a day at 100kg.

Sedentary job, slow metabolism and lost almost 4stone last year so didnt want to put any fat back on. But looks like that's all that's happened.

Anyway, what should I do? Stop now or try another supplier/lab?

Pull some BW. Stop guessing.

Not that easy! I am booked in in 3 weeks, if I go to the doctors and say can I have a blood test as I want to see if my steroids are dud, they will throw me out! Am I missing something is there a place I can just go and have it tested in the UK?

Try your local needle exchange exchange.

What do you think your Dr will say if he sees you have test massively above the range?!

Local needle exchange don't do it, when I had my test checked last time mid cycle the doctor suggested I lower the amount I took but wasn't an issue. It was 5 times higher than my normal test level but as I have naturally low test, it was only just above max normal range.

My thoughts are you aren't eating enough cals. And dropping your dex your e2 is high. But no way to know without a blood test. If you can't or won't get bw. Stop your cycle wait 3 weeks and start pct.

Just so there's no confusion, if I could get my bloods done, I would do, I get mine done off my Endocrinologist not from my local GP and there is a 3-6 month waiting list to see the endo. I wish it was as easy as going into the docs, saying I want a blood test and getting the results. But no as I'm sure everyone knows it doesn't work like that. That should clear up anyone questioning why I haven't had bloods done!

Tbh tho, no strength gains, no libido, feeling lathergic, fat gain, I don't need a blood test to know the gear is bad!

Thing is do I start again with another 10 week cycle or just do my PCT?

I have some other test E which I haven't tried yet british dragon.

How much armidex should I be having? And how often?

Cheers