Pre workout stims/caffeine on cycle or TRT?

**hxt** · 06-12-2017, 03:55 PM

Just wondering what you all think if taking pre workout stimulants it caffeine prior to working out when you are on aas or TRT. Are they unnecessary. Are yo chalk full of energy on cycle
Ususally?

**Ashop** · 06-12-2017, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by hxt

Just wondering what you all think if taking pre workout stimulants it caffeine prior to working out when you are on aas or TRT. Are they unnecessary. Are yo chalk full of energy on cycle
Ususally?

You can still use a pre workout ON cycle if you want.

**hxt** · 06-12-2017, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by ALIN

You can still use a pre workout ON cycle if you want.

Does it make a difference or unnecessary

**PT1982** · 06-12-2017, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by hxt

Does it make a difference or unnecessary

This is an odd question. If it makes a difference when you're not on, it'll make a difference if you are on.

**KINGKONG** · 06-12-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

This is an odd question. If it makes a difference when you're not on, it'll make a difference if you are on.

Exactly..it's exactly the same either way on cycle you might have more aggression but caffiene gives you more energy and endurance ..I use caffiene supplements on or off I try to cycle them and take time off because you will build up a tolerance and have to start taking extremely high doses for the same effect.

**ryobi1** · 06-12-2017, 09:39 PM

with or without stimulants, you always have those days that motivation is tried, or
you just dont feel as strong.

caffiene seems to help on any of those days, keeps you focused

**Marcus G** · 06-13-2017, 06:02 AM

Its makes no difference..

**hollowedzeus** · 06-13-2017, 06:29 AM

Could be a mile off but my initial thoughts when reading this was that perhaps being on a heavy cycle of androgens are already stressing the heart and perhaps it would be unwise to further cause aggrovation via caffeine/dmaa/synephrine or that.

Me personally when i cycle i would want as little things taking their toll on my heart as possible.

**PT1982** · 06-13-2017, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

Could be a mile off but my initial thoughts when reading this was that perhaps being on a heavy cycle of androgens are already stressing the heart and perhaps it would be unwise to further cause aggrovation via caffeine/dmaa/synephrine or that.

Me personally when i cycle i would want as little things taking their toll on my heart as possible.

You're not off by any means. And that's certainly worth considering. Thats why proper ancillaries are a must while on. It's like NO boosters. There are some studies that show it can cause stress on the vessels and arteries,which if true, could lead to issues. But I prefer an NO booster for good blood flow and circulation. I guess what I'm getting at is weigh out the pros vs the cons. There are pros and cons with everything we do. We just have to be as safe as possible and keep health our main priority.