First cutting cycle

**Vale9102** · 06-27-2017, 11:13 AM

Hi men, I am 26 years old, been on training for almost 2 years, my current height is 172 cm, weight is 79 kg for about 13% bf. I am looking to a short cut cycle, just to drop my bf to 9-10% if possible. Here's what I have in mind:
-Week 1 to 8: Test P 100 mg every 2 days (350 mg/week total);
-Week 2 to 7: winstrol (injectable) 25 mg/week total;
-Week 1 to 8: hCG 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
-Week 1 to 10: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts).

3 days after last inj of test i will start this PCT:
Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20.

Sorry in advance for grammatical errors, English is not my native language.

**guitarzan** · 06-27-2017, 01:32 PM

Only 25 mg a week of winstrol ?

**CALLMEOCT** · 06-27-2017, 02:30 PM

I find 25mg of Winstrol weekly really low dose.

Maybe you were talking about Daily dosage and you misstyped.

**Vale9102** · 06-28-2017, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by CALLMEOCT

I find 25mg of Winstrol weekly really low dose.

Maybe you were talking about Daily dosage and you misstyped.

Yes, sorry i wrote it wrong. 25 mg/day for 6 week total

**ShootingAcez** · 07-02-2017, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Vale9102

Hi men, I am 26 years old, been on training for almost 2 years, my current height is 172 cm, weight is 79 kg for about 13% bf. I am looking to a short cut cycle, just to drop my bf to 9-10% if possible. Here's what I have in mind:
-Week 1 to 8: Test P 100 mg every 2 days (350 mg/week total);
-Week 2 to 7: winstrol (injectable) 25 mg/week total;
-Week 1 to 8: hCG 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
-Week 1 to 10: Arimidex 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts).

3 days after last inj of test i will start this PCT:
Clomid 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex 40/20/20/20.

Sorry in advance for grammatical errors, English is not my native language.

^^ In bold - Do you aromatize quite a bit? I know .25mg eod for Arimidex is a standard dose, but For 350mg of test only, and some Hcg, you might even get away with .25mg of arimidex every 3rd day.

**Vale9102** · 07-03-2017, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

^^ In bold - Do you aromatize quite a bit? I know .25mg eod for Arimidex is a standard dose, but For 350mg of test only, and some Hcg, you might even get away with .25mg of arimidex every 3rd day.

This is really a good advice thank you. What about water retenction? even with 350 mg of test its high?

**charger69** · 07-03-2017, 12:00 PM

For your goals, you do not need to cycle. Your diet, cardio and lifting will get you where you want to be.
If you do cycle, i would take NAC for liver support. Even though the winstrol is injected, it still wreaks havic on your liver.

**ShootingAcez** · 07-03-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Vale9102

This is really a good advice thank you. What about water retenction? even with 350 mg of test its high?

No you shouldn't have water retention, if any at all. You aren't going to be using Dbol or Adrol, and Winstrol is a DHT derivative, so there will be zero water retention with that. Of course, if you don't drink any water, you will retain water like any other person who has a low fluid intake. But if you drink lots of water, you'll be fine buddy.

**ShootingAcez** · 07-03-2017, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

For your goals, you do not need to cycle. Your diet, cardio and lifting will get you where you want to be.
If you do cycle, i would take NAC for liver support. Even though the winstrol is injected, it still wreaks havic on your liver.

This is good advice as well. To lower body fat a few % from 13, you don't HAVE to cycle. It's achievable just like Charger said, with proper diet and exercise.

But if you do decide to cycle to achieve your goals, definitely take a strong liver support, and try the Adex every 3rd day if you don't aromatize too much

**PT1982** · 07-04-2017, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

No you shouldn't have water retention, if any at all. You aren't going to be using Dbol or Adrol, and Winstrol is a DHT derivative, so there will be zero water retention with that. Of course, if you don't drink any water, you will retain water like any other person who has a low fluid intake. But if you drink lots of water, you'll be fine buddy.

350mgs if test is enough to retain water.

**Dj Screw** · 07-04-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by ShootingAcez

No you shouldn't have water retention, if any at all. You aren't going to be using Dbol or Adrol, and Winstrol is a DHT derivative, so there will be zero water retention with that. Of course, if you don't drink any water, you will retain water like any other person who has a low fluid intake. But if you drink lots of water, you'll be fine buddy.

Zero water retention with 350mg of test?!? Zero?!?