1st cycle - TREN E - suggestions

[tushar3484]

Here is what my trainer suggested and i m planning for my 1st cycle :

About me - 33 years - 178 cm , 160 LBS , 18% body fat

Weeks - 1-10
Trenbolone Enanthate - 400 mg ( 2 x 200 mg )
Test Enanthate - 600 mg ( 2x 300 mg )

from week 8 - i will be starting my PCT

I just want to know if it is a good dosage considering its my 1st ever cycle after almost 5 years. ( Deca D + test in past )

Thanks in advance.

[Back In Black]

Your trainer is an idiot at best.

Tren as a first cycle is a no no. PCT is POST cycle not during.

No ai? No Hcg ?

In all honesty you should never speak to him again. Also you need to learn to eat rather than steroids . no amount of aas will put size on you if you can't diet properly.

Lucky for you we have an excellent diet section, start a thread there for some proper advice.

[songdog]

I am with BiB on this stay away from that trainer he is worthless.

[charger69]

BIB said it all. What is going on with these "trainers" now a days?
I would also recommend that you get your body fat down below 15% before cycling.


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[tushar3484]

Your trainer is an idiot at best.

Tren as a first cycle is a no no. PCT is POST cycle not during.

No ai? No Hcg ?

In all honesty you should never speak to him again. Also you need to learn to eat rather than steroids . no amount of aas will put size on you if you can't diet properly.

Lucky for you we have an excellent diet section, start a thread there for some proper advice.

Thanks for the information . how do i get the body fat down ? would clen help ?

[tushar3484]

BIB said it all. What is going on with these "trainers" now a days?
I would also recommend that you get your body fat down below 15% before cycling.


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he is actually a nutritionist - owns a degree as well . 40 years old and has very good knowledge. he said ur 33 already and you would kind of need those stuff to grow.
My diet is pretty good in terms of protein intake. exercise is good too .

[Bio-Active]

Thanks for the information . how do i get the body fat down ? would clen help ?

You need to eat clean good and put yourself on a store deficit. What does your daily nutrition look like now? What did you eat today?

[tushar3484]

You need to eat clean good and put yourself on a store deficit. What does your daily nutrition look like now? What did you eat today?

i dont actually count but i think its pretty good - eggs oats and protein shake for breakfast , and i get my lunch and dinner from a company called "mymusclechef " which has 60 - 80 grms protein per seve. i use aminos intraworkout.
and a yougurt and banana as a snack. plus post workout protein. but considering aas with good diet /exercise will add up.

[Bio-Active]

i dont actually count but i think its pretty good - eggs oats and protein shake for breakfast , and i get my lunch and dinner from a company called "mymusclechef " which has 60 - 80 grms protein per seve. i use aminos intraworkout.
and a yougurt and banana as a snack. plus post workout protein. but considering aas with good diet /exercise will add up.

Your gonna need to dial in your diet before jumping on gear. You might gain jumping on gear but without dialing it in you will go right back to were you are now when you come off. I suggest getting your BF down to at least 15 before starting

[kelkel]

he is actually a nutritionist - owns a degree as well . 40 years old and has very good knowledge. he said ur 33 already and you would kind of need those stuff to grow.
My diet is pretty good in terms of protein intake. exercise is good too .

Maybe he should stick to nutrition then as he's a fvcking train wreck when it comes to AAS. Do not take advice from him regarding cycling as he's going to get you hurt.

[Back In Black]

he is actually a nutritionist - owns a degree as well . 40 years old and has very good knowledge. he said ur 33 already and you would kind of need those stuff to grow.
My diet is pretty good in terms of protein intake. exercise is good too .

If he is a nutritionist he should easily be able to get your bodyfat down. If he can't then you have no need to pay him for anything.

If you aren't losing weight you eat too much, even eating 'clean' can easily give you too many calories, especially at your low weight.

[ScotchGuard02]

he is actually a nutritionist - owns a degree as well . 40 years old and has very good knowledge. he said ur 33 already and you would kind of need those stuff to grow.
My diet is pretty good in terms of protein intake. exercise is good too .

That's perfect, you can ask him to help you with the diet when on cycle. As for the cycle, read this it'll help http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[tushar3484]

That's perfect, you can ask him to help you with the diet when on cycle. As for the cycle, read this it'll help

Thanks for your advise. I have just gone through this page.

I spoke to the trainer again and he said he will give me a proper diet plan , exercise plan and he suggested a different cycle also

Per week x 10 weeks
400 mg Tren E
Sustanon 300
Anavar

previous cycle he suggested was

Per week x 10 weeks
400 mg Tren E
600 mg Test E

Totally confused now as to what you guys are saying and he is. Considering i have never done it before...... :/

[Nogbad the bad]

You don't seem to be listening.

[tushar3484]

If he is a nutritionist he should easily be able to get your bodyfat down. If he can't then you have no need to pay him for anything.

If you aren't losing weight you eat too much, even eating 'clean' can easily give you too many calories, especially at your low weight.

Thanks . Ya he said he will give me proper diet chart also along with the gear.

[tushar3484]

You don't seem to be listening.

i got it. not taking the cycle anyway..ll get the bodyfat down first.

[Back In Black]

He should have been fixing your diet and the training from the start.

What have you been paying him for? Seriously, pick another trainer.

[songdog]

Why do people think they need aas to lose weight? Ask your trainer that then fire his ass.You will learn more from reading our stickies about cycling than he knows! But that isn't a hard thing.

[Cuz]

Im calling troll

[Chicagotarsier]

Thanks for the information . how do i get the body fat down ? would clen help ?

Learn calories macros hgh insulin IGF-1

Fat melts off. Testosterone + HGH + Insulin is the best place to start. Very straight forward and results are drastic if calories and macros are in place properly.

[Chicagotarsier]

Why do people think they need aas to lose weight? Ask your trainer that then fire his ass.You will learn more from reading our stickies about cycling than he knows! But that isn't a hard thing.

As with anything the shortcut is where we all want to be. Urban Legend has people thinking shoot steroids look like Jose Canseco. They did not even read his book.

[Sicko]

Learn calories macros hgh insulin IGF-1

Fat melts off. Testosterone + HGH + Insulin is the best place to start. Very straight forward and results are drastic if calories and macros are in place properly.

How about proper diet and some hard work and a little research on what he is intending to do before messing with drugs at all?
seriously.. Insulin? You can kill yourself with a quickness messing around with insulin unless you really have a understanding...
Not the best suggestion for a newbee with no knowledge whatsoever...jes sayin...

[Nogbad the bad]

How about proper diet and some hard work and a little research on what he is intending to do before messing with drugs at all?
seriously.. Insulin ? You can kill yourself with a quickness messing around with insulin unless you really have a understanding...
Not the best suggestion for a newbee with no knowledge whatsoever...jes sayin...

You got my vote!