EQ and sust. or cyp.

**jobedog** · 07-10-2003, 07:33 PM

195lbs., novice AS user, EQ. at 400 or 600 mg/wk.? is 600 a waste? also organon sust 250 or upjohn test cyp.? will be doing inj. 2x a wk.(mon. and thur.)will probably run test at 500mg/wk.

**FrkyBgStok** · 07-10-2003, 07:36 PM

for a novice user i would still go with the cyp. i personally don't know a whole lot about upjohn but i am sure some bros do. if i am not mistaken, 600 mgs eq would be overkill and not that much of a difference. bump for more bros.

**01dragonslayer** · 07-10-2003, 07:39 PM

If this is your first cycle I'd suggest running a singled ester test i.e. cyp or enth at 500mg/wk for 11wks and the EQ at 400 for 10. You could also throw in some winny toward the end to help solidfy your gains and you can keep cycling up until your post cycle clomid.

**jobedog** · 07-10-2003, 07:47 PM

would thrownig dbol in at wks 1-5 at 25mg/ day really kick this cycle off? also how would I cycle the winny in and at what dose, pill

**01dragonslayer** · 07-10-2003, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by jobedog

would thrownig dbol in at wks 1-5 at 25mg/ day really kick this cycle off? also how would I cycle the winny in and at what dose, pill

It would help, but IMO only run it for 4wks. Also d-bol is heptoxic so make sure your taking a liver protectant as well. Hows this look:

Wks 1-4 D-bol 25mg/ED (split into 3-4 doses throughout the day)
Wks 1-10 EQ 400 mg/wk
Wks 1-11 Test(cyp or enth) 500mg/wk
Wks 7-12 Winny 50mg/ED (split 2x s day)

Start your post cycle clomid the after your last dose of winny at 300mg 1st day; 100mg/ED days 2-11; and 50mg/ED days 12-21. Take an anti-e throughout i.e. arm., liq., fem., etc., and have your nolva on hand. Also take liver protectants throughout as d-bol and winny are both 17aa s. Train hard and eat clean. Good luck.