New Cycle after 5 years off, advice needed

**enigma10** · 08-18-2017, 02:31 PM

Hey guys,

Male: 35
Weight 252Lbs
Eating high protein low low carb, do not want to bulk on cycle but cut.

I'm looking at inject able Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL first then after my first cycle and PCT Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL and TRENBOLONE ACE. 100MG 10ML.

So i've been away from gear for sometime, i'm looking to cut and get strong, before i was bulking and taking gear.

Any suggestions on use for use on Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL for stregth and cutting.

Thank you!

**guitarzan** · 08-18-2017, 05:41 PM

You would need more than 10ml. I would run 500 mg a week, for twelve weeks, basically like a first cycle. Of course, you will also need AI, hcg and pct

**PT1982** · 08-18-2017, 07:44 PM

Hey enigma! Glad to see you back. I know your experience is better than just any beginner, but I can't help but throw this out there:

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

And things have really evolved over 5 years. That's no joke. Why don't you follow through with the link I posted and see how that goes. And then when you're ready to hammer down on some tren or other exotics, we can design one up for you. Just an idea. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just what I would do in your situation. What do you think?

*EDIT- And a good cutting cycle of you want to keep things simple yet still use tren is this:

Test (your choice of ester) @ 150mgs weekly
Tren Ace @ 50mgs daily or 100mgs eod

Pct as planned or fall back on trt of that's what you do. It's super simple and sides seen to be little to non existent. Usually an AI is not needed with that low of test and you want to make sure hcg is a part of your cycle. That's a somewhat new thing in the last 5 years.

**enigma10** · 08-18-2017, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

You would need more than 10ml. I would run 500 mg a week, for twelve weeks, basically like a first cycle. Of course, you will also need AI, hcg and pct

12 weeks ? damn i thought i did 6 on and 6 off before but with Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL; i know there was a math to how much i would put in the syringe EOD ?

**enigma10** · 08-18-2017, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by PT1982

Hey enigma! Glad to see you back. I know your experience is better than just any beginner, but I can't help but throw this out there:

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

And things have really evolved over 5 years. That's no joke. Why don't you follow through with the link I posted and see how that goes. And then when you're ready to hammer down on some tren or other exotics, we can design one up for you. Just an idea. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just what I would do in your situation. What do you think?

*EDIT- And a good cutting cycle of you want to keep things simple yet still use tren is this:

Test (your choice of ester) @ 150mgs weekly
Tren Ace @ 50mgs daily or 100mgs eod

Pct as planned or fall back on trt of that's what you do. It's super simple and sides seen to be little to non existent. Usually an AI is not needed with that low of test and you want to make sure hcg is a part of your cycle. That's a somewhat new thing in the last 5 years.

Hey PT1982, thanks for the link and help, so run HCG with Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL ? i remebr just doing the Test but what would the HCG do and also when you said "we can design one up for you" you mean a cycle plan to go through ?

Thanks

**kelkel** · 08-18-2017, 08:22 PM

HCG keeps your testicals functioning instead of shutting down and potentially becoming damaged. This gives you a much better chance of a successful PCT.

**guitarzan** · 08-18-2017, 08:31 PM

"That's a somewhat new thing in the past 5 years"

Yea, my doctor turned me on to that about 4 or 5 years ago. I think I posted something on here about, but didn't get any response

**PT1982** · 08-18-2017, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by enigma10

Hey PT1982, thanks for the link and help, so run HCG with Test Enanthate 250mg 10mL ? i remebr just doing the Test but what would the HCG do and also when you said "we can design one up for you" you mean a cycle plan to go through ?

Thanks

Yes sir! Read over that link and it'll describe everything. Kel have you the key to using hcg. And as far as running your test, I would plan on pinning 250mgs 2x a week for a total of 500mgs weekly. And in the enanthate ester, being fairly long, i would plan on 12 weeks followed be 5 weeks of pct of nolva and Clomid. That link will guide you. If you have any other questions about it, ask away!