My first cycle- test+ stana?

[bobspix]

Hey guys

Just wanted to ask if a test and winny cycle as my first cycle is okay or is it too much and I should run only test?
I am somewhere there at 14% bf and I want to cycle to cut out water and burn fat while packing on lean muscle.

How does this look? (8 week cycle)
Stana : 25 mg/day for 6 weeks
Test-e : 250mg/week from week 1-8
12.5mg Aromasin eod from week 1-8
Liver support :liv.52 (ds) every day and milk thistle
Fish oil for joints

Clomid for PCT (HCG too?)

[charger69]

Provide stats please. What is your age?,bf? Workout history? Ht, weight?
First couple of cycles snhould be test only.
Read the sticky on the first cycle.
Hcg is for on cycle not PCT. do you have an AI?
PCT is Nolva and clomid.

[charger69]

To burn fat you need a caloric defecit and a good diet. AAS does not burn fat, it helps to protect the muscle while in the caloric defecit. Technically, someone may disagree- where is Sil when you need him?- but the actuality is diet and cardio is what gets any significant fat loss.

[bobspix]

Provide stats please. What is your age?,bf? Workout history? Ht, weight?
First couple of cycles snhould be test only.
Read the sticky on the first cycle.
Hcg is for on cycle not PCT. do you have an AI?
PCT is Nolva and clomid.

Thanks you for your reply man
I am sorry I forgot to mention the stats
Age : 20
bf : 14% approx
Been Lifting for 2 years serious lifting from 1 year
Height - 5'9
Weight - 71 (was 85 2months back)

A.I is Aromasin
Hope this helps

[bobspix]

To burn fat you need a caloric defecit and a good diet. AAS does not burn fat, it helps to protect the muscle while in the caloric defecit. Technically, someone may disagree- where is Sil when you need him?- but the actuality is diet and cardio is what gets any significant fat loss.

I am aware of it and I agree.

I used to weigh 85kgs and I got down to 71kgs in 1 to 1.5 months time.
My aim with this cycle is to build lean mass as I have read that Stana promotes lean mass and gets the water out.
I am dieting hard as of recently because I still have some belly fat and thus my protein is 150, carbs 100, fat 40-60

[charger69]

Exactly what I feared. You are too young. Your HPTA is still developing and you are going to shut it down. It may not start up or it may get confused and not develop properly. Please read the sticky on the young and steroids.
You are at the highest natural testosterone production in your life and you want to shut it down?
The decision is yours but at least educate yourself before you decide. IMO it is not worth the risk. Wait until your 25.....please.

[bobspix]

Exactly what I feared. You are too young. Your HPTA is still developing and you are going to shut it down. It may not start up or it may get confused and not develop properly. Please read the sticky on the young and steroids.
You are at the highest natural testosterone production in your life and you want to shut it down?
The decision is yours but at least educate yourself before you decide. IMO it is not worth the risk. Wait until your 25.....please.

not even a test-e cycle?

[PT1982]

Stickies. Most of us here have difficulty assisting you young guns right away. Doing some research on your own in the sticky section goes a long way here. Once you've proven you have done your homework and know the ins and outs, things get better.

[songdog]

Bro not only are you too young you are to light you need to build a foundation to build on.Hit our diet section and learn how to eat to pack on size.And yes a test only cycle can hurt you at your age it just isn't worth the lil muscle you will gain then lose anyway.

[bobspix]

Okay I am gonna research more and build a good foundation first and wait some more.
Thanks guys