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    First cycle of cypionate

    Hey guys my state pre blood work
    Testerone 697
    free test 175

    Taking 200 mg cyp
    hcg 250 ius 2 x a week
    hgh 2 ius

    12 weeks in stopped because of side effects my test went to
    testerone 2000
    feee test 350

    stopped for 3 weeks dr orders to reset and start lower will be going 3 months more
    because i want the full hgh effect to recover from a knee surgery 8 months back
    Is 2000 too high It was my first cycle 5'11 174 starting and went up to 190 in 11 weeks?

    PCT recommended for this should be what ? The clinic said 2 weeks after last shot 11 days of HCG and 100mg of clomid
    for 15 days does this sound right? The clinic wants to keep me on trt forever it seems but I wanted some good advice on
    PCT I haven't taken anything for 18 days but when your on PCT do you lose energy and have mood changes ?

    Any help would be appreciated

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    Take some time and read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the very top of this forum. Your questions will probably all be answered.

    What side effects?
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    Side effects were like full head rush after working out or after a set and I felt like I was going to pass out and everything got tight in my chest
    and I got real was panicking and everything tightened up, went to a Dr EKG was fine got full 16 blood test only thing
    was high test 2000 and free test 350 all other numbers were ggood hemocrit cbc throid just got freaked out I guess

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    You never should've gone ob TRT in the first place.
    Your total test of 697 is great.
    What level did he want you at?

    You went to a clinic that is just trying to make money off of you.

    just noticed you said cycle....
    Are you on TRT or trying to run a cycle?
    Is a doctor prescribing you a cycle??
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    You never should've gone ob TRT in the first place.
    Your total test of 697 is great.
    What level did he want you at?

    You went to a clinic that is just trying to make money off of you.

    just noticed you said cycle....
    Are you on TRT or trying to run a cycle?
    Is a doctor prescribing you a cycle??
    wow 200 mg of test per week puts your t that high??? im prescribed that but have only gotten trough levels and they were always towards the top of the range. is there any danger to being that high if your other bloodwork is ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR23 View Post
    Side effects were like full head rush after working out or after a set and I felt like I was going to pass out and everything got tight in my chest
    and I got real was panicking and everything tightened up, went to a Dr EKG was fine got full 16 blood test only thing
    was high test 2000 and free test 350 all other numbers were ggood hemocrit cbc throid just got freaked out I guess

    You felt this way cuzz your estrogen was probably as high as your test.

    Classic symptom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    You felt this way cuzz your estrogen was probably as high as your test.

    Classic symptom
    200mg for most won't elevate e2 out of range. 200mg puts me over 2k at the peak and e2 was in the high 20's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    200mg for most won't elevate e2 out of range. 200mg puts me over 2k at the peak and e2 was in the high 20's.

    Gotta disagree with that js. Most of the BW I see for guys on that dose (and I see tons) requires an AI. It may not always appear so when pulling BW only at trough level (assuming once p/w injections) but if pulled on day 2-3 it would probably be a different story.
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    Yeah we can't really say any amount of test won't elevate e2. Too many factors and everyone responds uniquely. The best answer to every curiosity is blood work.
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    This was a trt Deadlift Dog I was getting hgh to heal up a bad knee and the clinic said optimal was 800 in their mind for test
    and yes a doctor was prescribing and I told them 697 was great and they said 800 is optimal for them I am just doing an additional 3 months
    of hgh and going to PCT this week with Hcg / clomid for 15 days and just get the hgh benefits which I want not crazy about getting huge or
    a body building cycle. Yes you were right they are just trying to make money off me because they said I'll go back to what I started at which
    is fine with me.

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