Thinking of the future

**EEIET** · 09-01-2017, 10:05 AM

Hey folks

I am a 29 year old male 166 lbs 5'10. I am looking to move on from Starting strength 5x5 and move on to a new program as well as starting my first cycle. I recentely purchased but havnt recieved yet, a domestic guys "Rip Stack" 175 mg/10ml (test p 75 mg , mast p 50 mg, tren A 50 mg. Now I got three bottles of this stuff and the guy told me for an 8 week cycle this would be enough for a EOD. I could potentially order another 3 bottles in a week or two (depending on what you guys think).

I haven't purchased a PCT yet, but will definitely be doing this soon. My question here is "How much of a 175 mg "Rip Stack" will/should I be pinning every other day? Does this seem like a somewhat suitable stack to get things going for me?"

Thank you for taking the time to answer! I look forward to learning as much as I can.

**Myers** · 09-01-2017, 10:13 AM

way too much for a first cycle

Go with test E only, read the stickies

**kelkel** · 09-01-2017, 10:16 AM

Welcome EEIET.

First, and to be blunt. At 5'10" and 166lbs your issue is learning how to eat. You should be able to put on app another 25lbs naturally before considering anabolics. All the drugs in the world won't keep any muscle on your frame once you come off cycle unless you learn to eat. It's quite hard to eat enough to put on muscle and to retain it. I'd suggest visiting the Nutrition Forum here and getting help with your diet. It's all about nutrition in this sport.

Second, your first cycle should really be just testosterone , and a long ester at that. Never tren on a first, second or even third cycle. Learn what just test will do for you first and foremost. Take the time and read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of this forum. All you need to know is in it.

To repeat, you need to learn to eat to gain first, otherwise you'll just lose any gains you achieved on any type cycle. Basically throwing your money out the window. Think of it this way. You're 166lbs currently and want to be 190lbs. To do so you have to eat like a 190lb man and continue to do so to support it. If not, those gains will just fade away.

Hold off on the cycle and just store the gear. It won't go bad. Give it more time and work on nutrition. You won't regret it.

**EEIET** · 09-01-2017, 10:19 AM

Appreciate the quick responses guys. Thank you.

**kelkel** · 09-01-2017, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by EEIET

Appreciate the quick responses guys. Thank you.

Not trying to dismiss your thoughts of a cycle, we've just been where you are. Always best to learn from other people mistakes if at all possible. Stick around, read and contribute. We all learn new stuff here on a daily basis.

**EEIET** · 09-01-2017, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Not trying to dismiss your thoughts of a cycle, we've just been where you are. Always best to learn from other people mistakes if at all possible. Stick around, read and contribute. We all learn new stuff here on a daily basis.

Im glad you guys got back to me so quick. I might be able to get Test E only from this guy and I would feel a lot better knowing im not overdoing it. Definitely going to focus on nutrition a lot more as well.

**MuscleScience** · 09-01-2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by EEIET

Im glad you guys got back to me so quick. I might be able to get Test E only from this guy and I would feel a lot better knowing im not overdoing it. Definitely going to focus on nutrition a lot more as well.

That stack you have would be a good 3rd or 4th cycle. Plus those are short acting esters meaning the hit you quick and leave you quick. Without experience with these drugs prior. You could be info a ride trying to figure things out. Test E is a pretty straight forward compound. Much more forgiving to the first time user.

**EEIET** · 09-01-2017, 09:41 PM

I was able to get 4 300 mg bottles of test e. Luckily the vendor was patient with me. Im going to order another 4 next week for the full 8 week cycle. Looking into getting a hcg for testicular function, an AI, and nolvadex and clomid for PCT. In the meantime im trying to eat like a 190 lb man.

**MuscleScience** · 09-01-2017, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by EEIET

I was able to get 4 300 mg bottles of test e. Luckily the vendor was patient with me. Im going to order another 4 next week for the full 8 week cycle. Looking into getting a hcg for testicular function, an AI, and nolvadex and clomid for PCT. In the meantime im trying to eat like a 190 lb man.

How many ML are those bottles. 4 10ML bottles of Test E is more than enough for a 10-12 week first cycle

**EEIET** · 09-02-2017, 07:49 AM

Yes they are 10 ml

**guitarzan** · 09-02-2017, 08:45 AM

Yea, that'll be enough for 15 weeks at 600mg a week.

**songdog** · 09-02-2017, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by EEIET

I was able to get 4 300 mg bottles of test e. Luckily the vendor was patient with me. Im going to order another 4 next week for the full 8 week cycle. Looking into getting a hcg for testicular function, an AI, and nolvadex and clomid for PCT. In the meantime im trying to eat like a 190 lb man.

You need to build a solid foundation before you cycle bro beacuse if you don't you won't keep any of your gains.Not to sound rude but you can put that aas away for a couple of yrs if you were smart.