Thoughts on my new cycle :D

[nate10]

Been on this forum for a while. Did 1 test prop only cycle years ago. Injured my shoulder lost lots of the gains after cycle due to injury. Did PT and other things shoulder started feeling better , Then I did a test and deca cycle (put deca in there to see if it would help with the injury) 2 months in I had to cut cycle short, shoulder pain was impossible to deal with. Finally the 3rd orthopedic I saw decided it was time for surgery. Had surgery done 2 years ago , been lifting naturally since then. Now that I'm back at it 100% with lifting and diet. I feel its time to try again.
Cycle I have on hand , ready to start on Oct 1st:

1-14 500mg test E week
1-12 400mg deca week
1-4 70mg Tbol ed (kickstart)
2-15 250iu HCG 2x week
2-15 .25 adex ed (adjust as needed)

Have prami in hand if needed

Pct: 2 weeks after last test injection
1 month of:
clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

Going to be clean bulk for winter. 500 or so calories above maintance.
Workout 6 times a week.
5'10"
24 Year old
weigh around 180-185lbs Sort of lean.



What do you guys think? sort of simple and straight forward cycle.
One question is running Tbol , I know its MILDER on ur liver then dbol.
Should I run anything stronger to protect my liver? other then milk thistle?
Also anyone who has run Tbol. How was your dosage and how long?
Did you do it all at once? did you split the dosage? In the AM or Pre workout?


- Thanks!

[Back In Black]

If you haven't cycled in years just do a simple test only cycle as per the First Cycle Sticky

[nate10]

Thanks for the input!
But after so many fail attempts and my surgery shoulder sometimes bothers me a little and also tendinitis on my left elbow I want to run the deca to ease that. The Tbol is because I'm a very impatient person LOL just want that little kick start 1-2 weeks in. Tbol is pretty weak anyways.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

fix the injuries first then run 500mg of test E or C per week.

you are 180lbs.
you don't need 1390mg/week of gear.

[songdog]

More is not better you ain't 10 yrs old and it isn't Xmas eve run it right!

[nate10]

Appreciate all the Info and help guys. But basically what I'm looking for more is info on the cycle itself. Is it a good protocol or not. Any info on the tbol question? thanks!

[charger69]

Orals are orals and are not good for the liver. 2000 of NAc should be run.

[PT1982]

I would do the exact cycle you did before. This is just your second and there is no need to acclimate you receptors to all of the androgens at this point in time. If I changed anything, it would be the ester of test only. But I like prop, so I'd stay there.

[songdog]

Appreciate all the Info and help guys. But basically what I'm looking for more is info on the cycle itself. Is it a good protocol or not. Any info on the tbol question? thanks!

Yeah it's a cycle for a guy who has ran more cycles than you.You won't gain anymore size with all this gear vs just test that's just the way it works.

[nate10]

Yeah it's a cycle for a guy who has ran more cycles than you.You won't gain anymore size with all this gear vs just test that's just the way it works.

Well im not adding deca and tbol for size. Its for mostly for Deca's joint lubbing , and Tbol just to kick start so I don't have to wait over 4 weeks for the test E to kick in. Not a fan of Prop. But alright maybe I will take out the deca and just leave test and tbol or take out the tbol idk.

[Back In Black]

The Deca dose is way over a therapeutic dose. 150mg ow is more realistic. One shot of deca will shut you down, I wouldn't want to take that risk at 24. If you do run it you should extend your nolva by 20/20.

Any relief you get will last for the cycle length only and may mask further damage as you add more weight to your exercises possibly resulting in feeling worse at the end of the cycle.