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    first cycle and trust issue with it

    Hi everyone, i had this cycle from a retired university professor (sports science). Now he is a bodybuilding trainer, i think he's 60 years old.

    the problem is that EVERYONE is telling me that this is a bad, no-sense cycle!
    if anyone could give me some feedback I would really appreciate. thanks

    i'm 6'1 "and i was 205lb at 14% bf. With cutting diet i reached 185lb 10%bf and now i decided to turn into AAS to get more results for a clean bulk. i asked to him to prescribe me a cycle

    Nowadays still natural, at the end of the cut i'm doing a recomp approximatively 2600kcal on training days (4) and 1600kcal on rest days. macros on training days are 250cho 85 fat 200pro


    CYCLE:

    first 4 weeks:
    100mg test propionate Monday and Thursday
    100mg decadurabolin on Tuesday
    10mg nolvadex every day
    200mg cardus marianus

    5th week:
    2 clomid every day, 1 morning and 1 in the evening
    1 gonasi 1000 on Mondays and Thursdays
    200mg cardus marianus

    from 6th to 10th week:
    250mg text enant on Monday and Thursday
    10 mg nolvadex every day
    25 mg proviron every day
    200mg cardus marianus

    11th week:
    2 clomid every day 1 morning and 1 in the evening
    1 gonasi 1000 on Mondays and Thursdays
    200mg cardus marianus

    12th week:
    1 clomid per day for 10 days
    200mg cardus marianus

    MACROS for the cycle are:

    5 days of training 3700kcal = 400cho 105fat 300pro
    2 days rest 2300kcal = 185cho 70 fat 250pro

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    Welcome to the forums!

    I would seriously not speak to whoever gave you this advice anymore. Consider reading some of the educational sticky threads in this forum. Particularly the "My first cycle" thread.

    Have a powerful day!
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    Absolute nonsense.

    The HCG (gonasi) and PCT put that way throughout cycle don't serve any function. HCG is best run throughout cycle to keep your jewels running.

    I guess the prop it's intended as a kick start but you ought to pin it ED to keep levels stable, plus it isn't really needed in a first cycle

    No AI it's the worst I'm reading here, it signals zero real knowledge about hormones

    DECA is extremely suppressive and best avoided until your experienced AAS user or better, on TRT

    Cardo mariano is intended as a liver support but you know science did some progress over the last few centuries, since no orals are administered there is no real need either, go with 1-2g NAC if your worried about liver

    This guy doesn't seem to know what he's dong so your best disregard its advice. Refer to the forum stickies to know how to properly run a first cycle.

    Best first cycle is pretty simple - 500mg test enanthate is all you need, anything on top of that will make no difference, but it's imperative estrogen is controlled with an AI (arimidex ).

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    Also forgot to ask - what is your age? Can you get blood exams privately?

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    ....scary.....good thing you came here for some sound advice...forget him....the older brothers here have all the advice you will need...they will steer you right keep you on track and are available for you 24/7...forget the nutty professor


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    i will try to post my bloods and video of my bf



    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome to the forums!

    I would seriously not speak to whoever gave you this advice anymore. Consider reading some of the educational sticky threads in this forum. Particularly the "My first cycle" thread.

    Have a powerful day!
    done!

    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Absolute nonsense.

    The HCG (gonasi) and PCT put that way throughout cycle don't serve any function. HCG is best run throughout cycle to keep your jewels running.

    I guess the prop it's intended as a kick start but you ought to pin it ED to keep levels stable, plus it isn't really needed in a first cycle

    No AI it's the worst I'm reading here, it signals zero real knowledge about hormones

    DECA is extremely suppressive and best avoided until your experienced AAS user or better, on TRT

    Cardo mariano is intended as a liver support but you know science did some progress over the last few centuries, since no orals are administered there is no real need either, go with 1-2g NAC if your worried about liver

    This guy doesn't seem to know what he's dong so your best disregard its advice. Refer to the forum stickies to know how to properly run a first cycle.

    Best first cycle is pretty simple - 500mg test enanthate is all you need, anything on top of that will make no difference, but it's imperative estrogen is controlled with an AI (arimidex).
    i will do my research and then i will post a new cycle with the forum help! thanks for the informations bro!


    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Also forgot to ask - what is your age? Can you get blood exams privately?
    i'm 31 and yes, i did my blood exams and i think i will post them tomorrow

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    ....scary.....good thing you came here for some sound advice...forget him....the older brothers here have all the advice you will need...they will steer you right keep you on track and are available for you 24/7...forget the nutty professor

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    thanks i appreciate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I would seriously not speak to whoever gave you this advice anymore.

    Seconded. The guys an idiot. I'd like to think that with age comes wisdom, but.....
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    Read our stickys and stay away from that guy bad advice big time bro.

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    You got more advice on here than you did on steriodology.com

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    IT looks like a train wreck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Seconded. The guys an idiot. I'd like to think that with age comes wisdom, but.....
    Many of the uni professors over here got in position by means of favoritism and not competence, our education system in a sad and dysfunctional state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Seconded. The guys an idiot. I'd like to think that with age comes wisdom, but.....
    Many of the uni professors over here got in position by means of favoritism and not competence, our education system in a sad and dysfunctional state.

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