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    First cycle, Gel, Injectable?

    I'm sure this has been asking a million times so I apologize. I couldn't find a search function on the site.

    I picked up some Testoprim-D (50 or 200mg dose, unsure because the Spanish doesn't translate well) in Mexico. Also unsure if thats per 1ml vial. It looks like originally they were 2 packs but each box only has one.

    I also got a box of LowTiyel 50mg gel.

    Is there such a thing as a "light cycle" or is it all or nothing?


    Is the gel acceptable or do I need to do the injectable? Ive read orals are terrible on the liver and don't do nearly the same as injectable, but not much on gel.

    I only have 4 boxes of injectable, and 30 50mg gel packs.


    Can I just get an AI, and slap on a 50mg pack a day for a month and get results, or is that a waste? I haven't found and gel dosages around the site so I'm guessing they aren't really used this way.

    I'd rather stick to the gel than injecting some Mexican crap if possible.

    Thanks

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    Transdermals are generally very ineffective in my experience.

    What you have is a single ampule with 200mg in it. The box only comes with one ampule in it, although it has a slot for another. That one ampule is barely enough for one shot if you're attempting a cycle. It's a mix of enanthate and prop esters. So you're really best injecting at minimum every 3rd day.

    For a cycle, you will need about 30 of those ampules. Not to mention, anti-estrogen, post cycl therapy drugs, hCG , etc... I would do a tremendous amount of research before you start with what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Transdermals are generally very ineffective in my experience.

    What you have is a single ampule with 200mg in it. The box only comes with one ampule in it, although it has a slot for another. That one ampule is barely enough for one shot if you're attempting a cycle. It's a mix of enanthate and prop esters. So you're really best injecting at minimum every 3rd day.

    For a cycle, you will need about 30 of those ampules. Not to mention, anti-estrogen, post cycl therapy drugs, hCG, etc... I would do a tremendous amount of research before you start with what you have.
    Thanks for the reply. Sounds like the injectable are a waste since I only have 4. Bummer.


    So the gels are very ineffective too.... Are they so ineffective that I'd be better off throwing them away, or will it help a little bit?


    Still doing plenty of reading. I'm just trying to get an idea if I even have enough test to ever do it. It sounds like no...



    Side question- 30 amps for a cycle?? Is $20 bucks an amp average, or too much? I didn't think a basic test only cycle would cost that much. I knew it wasn't cheap but damn.
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    I don't discuss pricing.

    Entry level testosterone cycles should be around 500mg weekly for about 12 weeks. You could probably get away with 10 weeks considering it has a short ester in it. But the majority is long ester as I recall.

    Transdermal is just about dead in my opinion. It was a nice idea but most people just don't absorb it. Even if you adsorbed it in higher quantities than most, it's still not even remotely close to being considered a cycle. I think you're wasting your time with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR56 View Post
    I'm sure this has been asking a million times so I apologize. I couldn't find a search function on the site.

    I picked up some Testoprim-D (50 or 200mg dose, unsure because the Spanish doesn't translate well) in Mexico. Also unsure if thats per 1ml vial. It looks like originally they were 2 packs but each box only has one.

    I also got a box of LowTiyel 50mg gel.

    Is there such a thing as a "light cycle" or is it all or nothing?


    Is the gel acceptable or do I need to do the injectable? Ive read orals are terrible on the liver and don't do nearly the same as injectable, but not much on gel.

    I only have 4 boxes of injectable, and 30 50mg gel packs.


    Can I just get an AI, and slap on a 50mg pack a day for a month and get results, or is that a waste? I haven't found and gel dosages around the site so I'm guessing they aren't really used this way.

    I'd rather stick to the gel than injecting some Mexican crap if possible.

    Thanks
    What austinite said. Listen to him.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    What austinite said. Listen to her.

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
    Listen to him you mean?

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    Damn. Only out a hundred bucks. But that's disappointing to hear it's not even worth trying. I figured at worst it would be a light cycle to start with and maybe see a little more gains.

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    Is that Testoprim-D decent? Worth picking up more if I get the chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0tsf1red View Post
    Listen to him you mean?
    Erm, yes. Was looking at pic when posted. Thanks, edited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I don't discuss pricing.

    Entry level testosterone cycles should be around 500mg weekly for about 12 weeks. You could probably get away with 10 weeks considering it has a short ester in it. But the majority is long ester as I recall.

    Transdermal is just about dead in my opinion. It was a nice idea but most people just don't absorb it. Even if you adsorbed it in higher quantities than most, it's still not even remotely close to being considered a cycle. I think you're wasting your time with it.



    I agree my father is on 350mgs a wk of transdermal which the absorption rate is ridiculously slow - he's been on for 4wjs and hasn't seen s change - I shot him with cyp for the next wks and he felt so much better just an FYI / plus you'd need sooo much as Austinite stated it'd be pointless to use instead of an oil based compound(test e/c etc)
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