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    First SERIOUS cycle

    Hello everybody,

    I'm new to the forum, and I wanted to share my plan before acting on it. I want to be a little more aggressive, since with my first Anavar -only cycle I was overcautious and ended up regretting it.

    I'm 5'4, 140 lbs. Much muscle, very defined and built legs (runner and cyclist here), less happy about my upper body. I want to have my six-pack show, but there's a layer of fat I really can't get rid of. Have tried several regimes, and am right now on intermittent fasting.

    I plan to do a 10 week Novice Cutting cycle, as they call it on here.

    Test-e 500mg/week weeks 1-10
    Anavar 50mg/ed weeks 3-10
    Anastrozole 0.25mg/eod weeks 1-10

    PCT: Clomid 50mg for 28 days.

    I'm planning to work out 3 times a week, and run 3 times a week.

    Nutrition wise, Intermittent fasting, with cheat days here and there.

    How should I go about getting the stuff? I am not sure I can share where I got my last delivery of Anavar, would love to get some confirmations before ordering all this stuff.

    Hope to get some advice soon,

    Thanks, guys!

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    Man, this lacks so much detail...

    Age?

    Why was anavar not a serious cycle?

    Nutrition.. Intermittent fasting and cheat days? Where to get your "stuff"?

    Learn to diet/train, do some research and earn your source.
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    This is always a good read for a serious first cycle.

    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eduke93 View Post
    Man, this lacks so much detail...

    Age?

    Why was anavar not a serious cycle?

    Nutrition.. Intermittent fasting and cheat days? Where to get your "stuff"?

    Learn to diet/train, do some research and earn your source.
    I'm 34. Sorry, I thought it was showing more clearly in my profile.

    I think my anavar cycle didn't work because I was being overcautious, didn't want to take a lot because of it being my first cycle.

    Nutrition: I was doing Jim Stoppani's shortcut to shred, but I didn't notice any great improvement, as opposed to when I was doing intermittent fasting. What I meant by cheat days is that I won't be fasting 7 days a week, but a couple of days a week I am going to eat out of the window.

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    Thanks for this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You don't need drugs to get cut. Save your money and use AAS when you're trying to gain muscle.
    Explain, pls

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    Explain, pls
    here is the problem.
    everytime you take steroids you run the risk of damaging your HPTA.
    if you damage your HPTA then you will most likely end up fatter in the long run.

    So....
    why use steroids to cut and possibly end up fatter in the long run?

    Steroids are for doing what cannot be done naturally.

    Have you ever looked at a small cut guy and said "Man, he must be on steroids!!!!!!!"???

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    Abs are earned in the kitchen and not in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    Explain, pls
    Eat less do more cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    here is the problem.
    everytime you take steroids you run the risk of damaging your HPTA.
    if you damage your HPTA then you will most likely end up fatter in the long run.

    So....
    why use steroids to cut and possibly end up fatter in the long run?

    Steroids are for doing what cannot be done naturally.

    Have you ever looked at a small cut guy and said "Man, he must be on steroids!!!!!!!"???
    Well, first of all I know that I have very low T, and that very low T is often a cause for inability to bring the Body fat below a certain percentage.

    My plan is to bulk and shred. Test+Anavar should do that, right? OBV with the right nutrition and hours at the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Eat less do more cardio.
    So, I cycle 50 mins 5 days a week. Plus I run 5 miles 3 times a week. Is that enough cardio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    Well, first of all I know that I have very low T, and that very low T is often a cause for inability to bring the Body fat below a certain percentage.

    My plan is to bulk and shred. Test+Anavar should do that, right? OBV with the right nutrition and hours at the gym.
    If you truly have low T then get prescribed TRT.
    Cycling is only going to make your low T worse by further damaging your HPTA.

    Also, you cannot bulk and shred at the same time.
    Bulking equals eating more calories.
    Shredding equals eating less calories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    So, I cycle 50 mins 5 days a week. Plus I run 5 miles 3 times a week. Is that enough cardio?
    Then your diet is to blame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Then your diet is to blame...
    Agree 100%. I naturally don't have a lot of muscle or definition. However, I have looked better when not running, not able to get to the gym regularly and with diet on point than I have when running trail marathon distances and lifting with a moderately crappy diet.
    (This was a few years ago needless to say).

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    You're going to ruin your lean physique dropping 750mg of gear into your body and then yo yo ing back to your starting 140lbs seems counter productive.

    Abs are not a gear question. That's diet. Intermittent fasting works the safe as a depleted calorie deficit. You should focus more on the nutrition aspects.

    Can you post your current diet outlines?

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    I am currently doing intermittent fasting, by which I mean:
    Bulletproof coffee in the am
    Black coffee all day long
    Protein shake before working out, say at 6pm
    Dinner, protein based, some wholemeal carbs and vegetables.

    Previously I was doing following a diet by Jim Stoppani:
    Breakfast: 1 egg+2 whites, Oatmeal with proteins, Bulletproof coffee
    Mid morning snack: Greek yogurt with Peanut Butter
    Lunch: Lean proteins, Vegetables, 1 slice of wholewheat bread
    Snack: Some nuts
    Protein Shake before workout
    Dinner: 2 slices of wholewheat bread, lots of proteins and lots of veggies.

    IF I decide to cycle (which I seem understand everybody is advising me against), I guess I would go back to the Jim Stoppani diet.

    Also, my test is low, but close to the lower limit, so TRT is not an issue.

    Guys, THANKS for all the guidance. I mean it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    Well, first of all I know that I have very low T, and that very low T is often a cause for inability to bring the Body fat below a certain percentage.

    My plan is to bulk and shred. Test+Anavar should do that, right? OBV with the right nutrition and hours at the gym.

    Brooklyn why don't you get complete blood work done and try to figure out why your T is low? There's a list in the Finding A Doc sticky thread at the top of the HRT Forum. When T is low there's normally a causative factor unless it's age related, which is probably not the case here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Brooklyn why don't you get complete blood work done and try to figure out why your T is low? There's a list in the Finding A Doc sticky thread at the top of the HRT Forum. When T is low there's normally a causative factor unless it's age related, which is probably not the case here.
    I did. An endocrinologist checked everything, for several months. It's low, but not so low as to demand treatment. So, no causative factor, probably just genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn_shortie View Post
    So, I cycle 50 mins 5 days a week. Plus I run 5 miles 3 times a week. Is that enough cardio?
    I used to distance run. The farther I ran, the lower my T got...

    How Endurance Exercise Lowers Testosterone & What To Do About It | Poliquin Article

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    So, I guess I will:

    - Diet responsibly (like Jim Stoppani's Shred diet)
    - Do enough cardio
    - Do a 10 week the Novice Cutting cycle I described above
    - Do a 4 week PCT Clomid+Nolvadex

    I have tried lots of things, and I want to see if a cutting cycle will help me get where I want to be.

    If you have advice or other caveats, please share before I begin. :-D

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