What to do with test dose while adding tren

[cradke11]

Looking to add some tren to my cycle but my question is what should i do with my test dose. Currently I'm doing a blast at 700 mg of test prop a week (100 mg ED). I am running 40 mg of nolva ED to help with the gyno symptoms i get and it keeps everyrhing at bay on that high test dose. I do have a bunch of caber arimidex and aromisin. How would you guys properly add tren to this. I would like to run it for 4-6 weeks. Thanks

[Sh0tsf1red]

Personally , that test dose sounds really high no matter what you're adding

I'd cut it in half either way

[Mr. Small]

If you have experience with cycles enough to warrant tren , then 250mg of test and 250mg of tren is enough.

[songdog]

By the sound of it you say you got Adex on hand? How many cycles have you ran? wat are your stats bro?

[cradke11]

29 yoa 6'1" 225 11% or so bf. Pretty clean diet with a very fast metabolism. I do have experience and have bw done to back up results and how I have reacted to things. I had done a blast at 700 mg for 2 weeks to do a little experiment if the prop i had got from a local guy was legit and yes it is. Tests showed total test was >1500. E2 was 33 with no A.I. just 40 mg of nolva. Was gonna do 12.5 of aromisn EOD since there tabs and my adex is 1 mg capsules. Unless you guys think .5 mg of adex e3d would b better? Even tho my body does feel fine I just hope that 40 mg of nolva isn't trashing my liver. I do 600 mg of nac ed. So what should i back the test down to. I also am gonna throw some var into the mix as well like 20 mg ed not sure what the typical dose for that is for a male as I have only ran dbol as an oral in the past. Gives me really bad sides tho even at 25mg.

I have done handful of cycles over the past few years. I do have caber adex aroma all on hand as well as hcg .

[songdog]

You need to run a ai start Adex .25EOD just split the pills razor knife then get bloods it will tell you wat to do.And you really didn't answer my questions how many cycles have you ran?

[cradke11]

I have done 5 cycles mainly just test and dbol . Test and deca . Nothing crazy.

[ScotchGuard02]

If you're running 700mg/wk of Test Prop, I'm assuming you're trying to get massive? Just run 250mg/wk to 350mg/wk. You should see gains all the way through 8 weeks. If you want to run a shorter cycle, it'll work.

[cradke11]

Yes I'm looking for mass right now. 250 to 350 of what tren ? Or test? Please be more specific considering my question was how much should i drop my test if I wanna run some tren for bulk?

[kelkel]

Your test dose is completely up to you, there's no set rule. There's a great sticky at the top of this forum regarding running TRT dose test with Tren that you should read. Probably a great way to go if it's your first run with tren so you can learn exactly what tren will do both for and to you.

Running nolva throughout your cycle is fine if gyno prone but it does not take the place of an AI. You can safely drop your Nolva to 20 per day and probably even to 10 if you implement an AI. Your E2 may not be high now but it will be so an AI should always be run. Re your body feeling fine, of course it does it's only been 2 weeks. It takes time for both the positive and negative sides to appear.

HCG should be run on all cycles assuming you care about your testicals. You need to make a plan and stick to it so you can manage sides. When it comes to tren A I'd always suggest a very low dose along side TRT test to learn how you respond to it. It's an amazing product and it does not take much to have a great effect. Most tend to use far more than they need.

[cradke11]

Thanks for the advice I do plan on running .25 of adex twice a week. I did drop my nolva to 20 for a few days and signs started to appear again. I'm assuming it was cause of the high dose of test but I'm just very prone to gyno. I was planning on running hcg at 500 iu a week for the last 4 weeks before pct. I am gonna run .50 mg of prop and .50 mg of tren a ED with 40 mg of var. I don't mind pinning ed and I like keep blood levels stable plus it helps me with my pump mentally before going to the gym

[kelkel]

If it's your first run with tren I'd cut that dose in half.
HCG should be run throughout your cycle. Zero logic in not doing so but they're your testicals.
I'd add in at least one more day for adex at your dose.
I'd still drop the nolva to 20. If you need 40 per day then the issue is estrogen and not enough AI. Remember as well sensitivity in the nipple area does not indicate gyno.