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    Quiting

    Hello, i started my first cycle about 3 weeks ago with 500 test a week. 2 times a week, .I never had the horny phase. Nothing. I am libdo deprived rn, I was on dbol about 30-45mg a day. Took my AI once or twice and didnt need it because gyno just wasnt in my deck of cards i guess. Anyways. im going to quit the cycle. I have 30 caps of nolva and clomid at 20mg a cap. I also have a alpha test booster for free test. Wondering if i should also take that? Please help me with information <3

    Also age 20 Before i started i was always horny
    Bf 9
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    Didn't need a ai huh? no libido high E2 !

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    [QUOTE=songdog;7340616]Didn't need a ai huh? no libido high E2 ![/QUOte
    I have arimdex and aromasin. how much should i take, and everyday or every other?

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    [QUOTE=Cman5811;7340642]
    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Didn't need a ai huh? no libido high E2 ![/QUOte
    I have arimdex and aromasin. how much should i take, and everyday or every other?
    Take .25 mg of arimidex every other day for two weeks. Then after the two weeks is up take 40 mg of clomid and nolva ed for a week (thats 14 ea of your tabs used).
    Second and third week take 20 mg ed of clomid and nolva (that leaves you with two tabs of each)

    That is a light three week pct. Your libido will come back but if you had used AI and hcg properly you would have been trying to screw anything on four legs.

    I set your pct up with what you had. Dont worry you will be fine. Good luck.

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    Bear in mind you need to cease any and all AAS immediately before starting any of the protocol I laid out.

    Don't worry like I said. Wait a few years, study, train, and eat. Maybe you will want to try it again. Dont blame you if you dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Bear in mind you need to cease any and all AAS immediately before starting any of the protocol I laid out.

    Don't worry like I said. Wait a few years, study, train, and eat. Maybe you will want to try it again. Dont blame you if you dont.
    I’ve stopped all aas, now my armadex is dosed at 12.5mg per ml so much much of that shonda I take? Just .25ml? Or the full dropper

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    Many make the mistake of thinking AI is only to prevent gyno. High estrogen can cause nearly any symptom of low T. Depression, loss of libido, ed, moodiness, irritabilty, sensitivity to ol' yeller gettin' shot, and sewing with your grandmother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Many make the mistake of thinking AI is only to prevent gyno. High estrogen can cause nearly any symptom of low T. Depression, loss of libido, ed, moodiness, irritabilty, sensitivity to ol' yeller gettin' shot, and sewing with your grandmother.
    okay so last question. thank you for being so helpful. What is the doseage for my ai, is arimdex okay? .25 is that a full dropper cuz mine is oral?

    also how long do you think itll be to have sex again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cman5811 View Post
    okay so last question. thank you for being so helpful. What is the doseage for my ai, is arimdex okay? .25 is that a full dropper cuz mine is oral?

    also how long do you think itll be to have sex again?

    what's it say on the bottle? mg/ml ?

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    well you might want to go ahead and start taking that AI now that you thought you didn't need .

    assuming you were running test e or c that stuff will be in your system a couple weeks. And having high estrogen is going to make getting your natural test levels going again a bitch (your pituitary has no reason to tell your balls to produce test when it senses estrogen is super high)

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    so would you reccomend how many mg of arimdex should i take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well you might want to go ahead and start taking that AI now that you thought you didn't need .

    assuming you were running test e or c that stuff will be in your system a couple weeks. And having high estrogen is going to make getting your natural test levels going again a bitch (your pituitary has no reason to tell your balls to produce test when it senses estrogen is super high)
    how much armidex should i take? and everyday? Sorry if i sound like a complete dumbass but im honestly so nervous about this. So right now i have armidex and aromasin. I also have the clomid and nolvadex for after 2 weeks since my last inject

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    I bet no HCG either.

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    .25mg EOD, if it's dosed at 1mg/ml, thats .25mls, need to know what it's dosed at...

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    Okay so a quarter of the dropper every other day. How long do you think. It’ll be till my sex drive comes back? Since I was on only 3 weeks of test e will it be shorter? I know I was dumb for not taking ai my buddy was wrong :/ do you think the Ai alone will bring it back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    .25mg EOD, if it's dosed at 1mg/ml, thats .25mls, need to know what it's dosed at...

    Okay so a quarter of the dropper every other day. How long do you think. It’ll be till my sex drive comes back? Since I was on only 3 weeks of test e will it be shorter? I know I was dumb for not taking ai my buddy was wrong :/ do you think the Ai alone will bring it back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cman5811 View Post
    Okay so a quarter of the dropper every other day. How long do you think. It’ll be till my sex drive comes back? Since I was on only 3 weeks of test e will it be shorter? I know I was dumb for not taking ai my buddy was wrong :/ do you think the Ai alone will bring it back?
    take until you start PCT, start PCT 2 weeks after your last pin of test. get blood work done after you finish pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    take until you start PCT, start PCT 2 weeks after your last pin of test. get blood work done after you finish pct
    So if my armidex is dosed af 12.5mg per ml how much should I take ML wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cman5811 View Post
    So if my armidex is dosed af 12.5mg per ml how much should I take ML wise
    you mean aromasin? arimidex doesn't come at that highly dosed..

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    arimidex standard dosage .25mg EOD

    aromasin standard dosage 12.5mg EOD

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    Because I just remember taking test e and dbol, and only minimal doses of ai, but I’d my estro was high I’d have puffy nips or other things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cman5811 View Post
    Because I just remember taking test e and dbol, and only minimal doses of ai, but I’d my estro was high I’d have puffy nips or other things?
    Not necessarily. Everyone is different. With the coumpounds you were taking you didnt crash your estrogen unless you took a very large dose of AI.
    Taking test and dbol and it not aromatizing into estrogen
    Would be like drinking water that didn't hydrate.

    Did you take anything besides what you have said?
    I can just about guarantee your issue is elevated estrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Not necessarily. Everyone is different. With the coumpounds you were taking you didnt crash your estrogen unless you took a very large dose of AI.
    Taking test and dbol and it not aromatizing into estrogen
    Would be like drinking water that didn't hydrate.

    Did you take anything besides what you have said?
    I can just about guarantee your issue is elevated estrogen.
    What’s a very large dose? So I believe I took aromisin 4-5 times probably .75ml and I think I do adex the first time though because I got caught up in exitment and confused about the bottles which I took I think 1ml-1mg of adex. Other than that it was literally test 3 weeks and dbol
    Everyday. My buddy said maybe I needed more test because my dbol doseage was different maybe? So in all you think I should just stick to arimdex for 2 weeks .25mg eod still? I just don’t get how my estrogen levels get high from test and dbol. Without having side effects besides Libdo. I appreciate you’re patience and help. Young kid just trying to get his pp back in action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cman5811 View Post
    What’s a very large dose? So I believe I took aromisin 4-5 times probably .75ml and I think I do adex the first time though because I got caught up in exitment and confused about the bottles which I took I think 1ml-1mg of adex. Other than that it was literally test 3 weeks and dbol
    Everyday. My buddy said maybe I needed more test because my dbol doseage was different maybe? So in all you think I should just stick to arimdex for 2 weeks .25mg eod still? I just don’t get how my estrogen levels get high from test and dbol. Without having side effects besides Libdo. I appreciate you’re patience and help. Young kid just trying to get his pp back in action
    The purpose of running tha Arimidex for two weeks was to let the AAS finish its deeds in your system and give you a chance to get your estrogen in check before PCT.

    Pct is postponed until 2-3 weeks after the last injection/dose depending on what you are running.
    The purposecis so that the AAS can leave your system. Being on PCT directly after using AAS would totally cancel out the point of PCT, which is to return to a normal hormonal level and reastart your shutdown system.

    One thing I have learned about ED is once you get that "Oh shit what if I can't get it up!?", thought into your head...
    You probably won't be getting it up.

    You will return to normal soon and probably the majority of your issue is mental. Bloodwork would be wise.

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    I bet your wishing you'd have listened to this boards initial advice given, huh?

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