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    JackMan017 is offline Junior Member
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    Bloodwork question

    Hello,

    I've been considering doing a first cycle. I've been reading Austinite's first cycle thread over and over for quite some time. She has a breakdown on which variables to include for bloodwork.
    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)


    I reached out to a company to inquire for bloodwork, and they offer 2 different packages

    #1
    - LH and FSH (Pituitary hormones that stimulate testicular cells that can help diagnose primary (testicular) or secondary hypogonadism)
    - Total and free testosterone (LC/MS assay. No upper limit restriction)
    - Prostatic specific antigen (PSA) (TRT is contraindicated for PSA equal or above 4.0)
    - Estradiol (sensitive. LC/MS assay)
    - Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH)
    - Lipids (LDL, HDL, Triglycerides)
    - Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP) (Glucose, electrolytes, liver/kidney functions)
    - Comprehensive Blood Count (CBC) (Immune cells, red blood cells, hemoglobin, hematocrit)

    #2
    - Total and free testosterone (LC/MS assay. No upper limit restriction)
    - Sex hormone binding globulin
    - Estradiol (sensitive- LC/MS assay)
    - CBC (includes glucose, hematocrit and immune cells)
    - CMP (includes liver and kidney function, eGFR)
    - Lipids (LDL and HDL cholesterol and triglycerides)

    I don't see Austinite's #3 E2 requirement in either package. I'm very in-experienced with bloodwork but trying to learn. Any input/feedback is appreciated. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackMan017 View Post
    Hello,

    I've been considering doing a first cycle. I've been reading Austinite's first cycle thread over and over for quite some time. She has a breakdown on which variables to include for bloodwork.
    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH (pre-cycle and post PCT)


    I reached out to a company to inquire for bloodwork, and they offer 2 different packages

    #1
    - LH and FSH (Pituitary hormones that stimulate testicular cells that can help diagnose primary (testicular) or secondary hypogonadism)
    - Total and free testosterone (LC/MS assay. No upper limit restriction)
    - Prostatic specific antigen (PSA) (TRT is contraindicated for PSA equal or above 4.0)
    - Estradiol (sensitive. LC/MS assay)
    - Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH)
    - Lipids (LDL, HDL, Triglycerides)
    - Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP) (Glucose, electrolytes, liver/kidney functions)
    - Comprehensive Blood Count (CBC) (Immune cells, red blood cells, hemoglobin, hematocrit)

    #2
    - Total and free testosterone (LC/MS assay. No upper limit restriction)
    - Sex hormone binding globulin
    - Estradiol (sensitive- LC/MS assay)
    - CBC (includes glucose, hematocrit and immune cells)
    - CMP (includes liver and kidney function, eGFR)
    - Lipids (LDL and HDL cholesterol and triglycerides)

    I don't see Austinite's #3 E2 requirement in either package. I'm very in-experienced with bloodwork but trying to learn. Any input/feedback is appreciated. Thank you.
    that's it in red.
    what you don't what is the non-sensitive.

    FYI: some place call the good one sensitive and some places call it ultra-sensitive

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    FYI - that PSA is not a substitute for a finger in the ass to check the prostate. Prostatic specific antigen (PSA) (TRT is contraindicated for PSA equal or above 4.0) Studies have shown that about 70% to 80% of men with an elevated PSA who have a biopsy do not have cancer. About 20% of men who have cancer also have a normal PSA (less than 4 ng/ml), so the test may give some men a false sense of security.

    https://www.harvardprostateknowledge...s-psa-reliable

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