Tren & Behaviour

[casmira]

Hey guys, this isnt my first cycle but i jabbed 500mg tren e & 500mg test e, first week in. I’ve noticed my behaviour change- ive become very avoidant of some things like upkeeping gym behaviour, avoidant of some social things, and in general feel tense or irritable. Appetite has been crushed, motivation, bit of nausea. I’m gonna drop the dose but for now whatcanbe done, half way into my lifts i feel completely flat. Not on meds or anything just pantropezol for heart burn. Age 29
Any suggestions?

[hammerheart]

That's a lot of Tren... it's the first time you are running it?

Are you using AI?

[casmira]

No I've run tren at least few times before, infact I used to run tren mast deca test- this isnt unknown to me. I have caber right now

[hammerheart]

No AI (arimidex, aromasin)?

[hammerheart]

BTW it's difficult to predict how one will react to TREN but huge doses can be a trip to hell to some and your at week 1 already.

Nausea and heartburn are common too the progesterone can mess with bile flow.

[casmira]

No AI yet it was supposed to come in order but it got mucked up
Tbh i am not fussed that much about nausea but this effect on my mood is pretty disturbing
I sometimes would get to the gym, park outside and either go in eventually with great reluctance or only do a complete half assed workout
I was at least 6 months off, I probably should of gradually eased into tren/test but given my experience i didnt think itd be the issue

Normally when i feel this low on motivation, i ease my way into more longer/harder workouts day by day- much like my food, i just eat tiny meals instead of larger meals but its syfh

[hammerheart]

Your estrogen must be through the roof and that is no good now stack the Tren and sides are going to be a nightmare I hope your AI is in soon otherwise I would drop Test down to TRT dose.

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[casmira]

Your estrogen must be through the roof and that is no good now stack the Tren and sides are going to be a nightmare I hope your AI is in soon otherwise I would drop Test down to TRT dose.

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Surely estrogen cant be responsible for these mental sides? I thought Esteogen normally makes you whinge or complain, not develop avoidant kind of behaviour?

[Jangles1]

Surely estrogen cant be responsible for these mental sides? I thought Esteogen normally makes you whinge or complain, not develop avoidant kind of behaviour?

https://www.livestrong.com/article/2...-low-estrogen/

[GearHeaded]

i jabbed 500mg tren e & 500mg test e, first week in

your only ONE week in and your running Enanthate . shit hasn't really even kicked in yet.
think your issues are mental and from something other then the exogenous hormones. how long has it been since your last cycle?

[hammerheart]

Surely estrogen cant be responsible for these mental sides? I thought Esteogen normally makes you whinge or complain, not develop avoidant kind of behaviour?

There can be synergy between high estrogen and Tren sides.

[charger69]

First- you need an AI.
I am very irritable on tren, as long as you realize that, you can control your behavior.. I actually appear calmer on tren even though I want to rip everyone’s head off. LOL
One thing that does minimize the sides is to pin daily and keep the serum levels consistent.


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[Obs]

First- you need an AI.
I am very irritable on tren, as long as you realize that, you can control your behavior.. I actually appear calmer on tren even though I want to rip everyone’s head off. LOL
One thing that does minimize the sides is to pin daily and keep the serum levels consistent.


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Same here. Its because I am chanting "stay calm"

[David LoPan]

Might want to give this a read http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

[diesel101]

It takes about 2 1/2 weeks I before feel anything on tren but it makes me feel like a god for the most part.

As mentioned I think its mental more than anything.

[Obs]

Oh btw, the other thing you must chant 24-7 is, "I am not a cheater, I love my girl, she is all I need!"

[1moreset024]

Surely estrogen cant be responsible for these mental sides? I thought Esteogen normally makes you whinge or complain, not develop avoidant kind of behaviour?

No couldn't be the estrogen, .....

[charger69]

Oh btw, the other thing you must chant 24-7 is, "I am not a cheater, I love my girl, she is all I need!"

I tried that and got slapped by my wife!


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[David LoPan]

I tried that and got slapped by my wife!


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I have to watch out for most things that come out of my mouth or suffer the wrath of the wife.

[Obs]

I tried that and got slapped by my wife!


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You dont say it out loud!

[Capebuffalo]

It takes about 2 1/2 weeks I before feel anything on tren but it makes me feel like a god for the most part.

As mentioned I think its mental more than anything.

Unless you have to walk up stairs. Lol

[charger69]

You dont say it out loud!

You didn’t give good instructions!


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[casmira]

your only ONE week in and your running Enanthate . shit hasn't really even kicked in yet.
think your issues are mental and from something other then the exogenous hormones. how long has it been since your last cycle?

Almost a year bro :/ believe me i did bloods, tsh/fsh was back online, prog was zero, all androgens cleared okay

This is why im kind of reluctant to peg it to estrogen boys, granted i need an AI but a week in!?

Ive spoken to therapists whether on or off cycle and almost unanimously they’re of the opinion i do not need antidepressants.

To give you guys an idea, if i feel nauseas or suppressed appetite ill find myself second guessing my desire for the gym or anything else. The day before yesterday i drove to the gym and just sat outside for 20 min before i could finally psych myself to go in.

I genuinely dont have anything bugging me, ive searched my mind, im on holidays, lifes good, i probably could pick up some more work to keep busy but fuck

There can be synergy between high estrogen and Tren sides.

I agree with you i used to run 125mg test e/200-500mg tren e per week historically. But its a bit soon to say my estrogen has spiked to cause all this?

First- you need an AI.
I am very irritable on tren, as long as you realize that, you can control your behavior.. I actually appear calmer on tren even though I want to rip everyone’s head off. LOL
One thing that does minimize the sides is to pin daily and keep the serum levels consistent.


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Even tren Enth to be pinned daily or eod?


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Lol! I am single right now and happy to stay that way. I ironically have much stronger desire for relationships while off cycle, while on them, i am way too focused on university, work, mates

[charger69]

Yes ed. You should see a difference especially with tren. Depending on the total qty, you can use an insulin pin


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