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    Web site I bought from went down!?!?

    New to this world I did a cycle of orals bought online before deciding to move on to injectables for TRT.

    Xxxxxxxxxx is where I bought my first batch and finally ordered a second a couple days ago. BUT.... now the size is down. I paid with bitcoin <$200 worth but they don't use email. All dialog runs through the now "down" web site.

    Obviously I won't be getting money back and wonder if this was a government action. Anyone else buy here? Do you know of other ways to contact these people? I think it's out of India but some shipments came from China.

    I need a plan B pretty fast. Any thoughts?

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    Yup! used it twice. My first cycle I got the stuff from them, I did it onto 2 orders, didn’t have all the cash at once. They seemed responsive and I received my stuff on time. I was about to place and order with them again but sadly the site like u said is down. I actually don’t know other places so I have to wait for it to come back again, I hope it’s not a government issue. Maybe they just have an outage. However my stuff came from Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    Please don't post URLs or hyperlinks to AAS websites.
    I understand. The question for me would be how to inquire about specific markets if I don't use there name. (serious question) And do I need to edit my subject line?

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    you need a plan B ?? go get your gear from a better source . thats pretty easy to do. I've got an entire rolodex (if your old enough to know what that is) of places to get gear, from doctors that will write me a script for primo to under ground brewers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I understand. The question for me would be how to inquire about specific markets if I don't use there name. (serious question) And do I need to edit my subject line?
    Subject has been edited. Generally this is best handled via PM. Since you're new and can't PM, I would search online via Google. If they went down, the Internet will eventually know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    you need a plan B ?? go get your gear from a better source . thats pretty easy to do. I've got an entire rolodex (if your old enough to know what that is) of places to get gear, from doctors that will write me a script for primo to under ground brewers .
    I can't PM yet, but if anyone can PM me please do so. Obviously price is a consideration, but not if it's a risk to safety. Google is where i found my suddenly vanished supplier, so that's kind of like throwing darts. (or at lease how I throw them, which is poorly). I mostly lift at home so don't know ppl in the loop for such things. Any help you guys offer would be greatly appreciated.

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    How old are you Perm? Are you in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    To avoid confusion:


    LMAO, if you know what this is then you are old enough for TRT

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    Your profile says that your 45. I would suggest that you go read up on the TRT part. Kelkel has a great post about how to get a good doctor. Blood work will be your first step. It would also be helpful if you posted your stats, age, height and weight, BF, cycle experince, etc. More information you post the better quality of feedback you will get here on the site.

    I bet most everyone on here has been burned online at least one time. During the holidays there is a lot of scams and fake mirror sites that look just like a legit site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David LoPan View Post
    Your profile says that your 45. I It would also be helpful if you posted your stats, age, height and weight, BF, cycle experince, etc.
    I'm 45 yrs. 6'2" and 180 lbs (up from 164 in the last 2 years). I'm ending a cycle of "Winstrol " based upon no good reason other than it wouldn't make me grow breasts. It has helped with energy and vastly improved my recovery. I've since decided that TRT would be my best course for the future. Yes, blood work is a good idea, but paying for it isn't really an option at this point... Thanks for you're advise.

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    Blood work can be obtained on your own in most states and surprisingly cheap as well. Take a look at discounted labs . com and private md labs . com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I'm 45 yrs. 6'2" and 180 lbs (up from 164 in the last 2 years). I'm ending a cycle of "Winstrol" based upon no good reason other than it wouldn't make me grow breasts. It has helped with energy and vastly improved my recovery. I've since decided that TRT would be my best course for the future. Yes, blood work is a good idea, but paying for it isn't really an option at this point... Thanks for you're advise.
    If you have insurance you should be able to get a yearly physial with bloodwork for just a co-pay. Kelkel posted two great places to get your bloodwork done. This should really be where you start at your age. You really need to know what is going on with your body before you start added compounds into it. Health is the most important thing you can have.

    I know that this time is tight to be on money. But the AAS are going to be the cheapest part of your cycle. Food is not cheap and that is where you will see most of your gains.

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    why font you just go through here you wouldn't have those problems

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    Big perm. And out $200

    That is the exact amount smokey (Chris Tucker) owed big perm in the movie Friday.

    I suggest maybe you do exactly as perm did in movie.

    Lol

    Jk

    As said above plenty of reputable aas online sources try a different one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I'm 45 yrs. 6'2" and 180 lbs (up from 164 in the last 2 years). I'm ending a cycle of "Winstrol" based upon no good reason other than it wouldn't make me grow breasts. It has helped with energy and vastly improved my recovery. I've since decided that TRT would be my best course for the future. Yes, blood work is a good idea, but paying for it isn't really an option at this point... Thanks for you're advise.
    Please tell me you have a big ass afro perm!

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    Update: Feeling much better as said site appears to be up and running today and my order says "shipped"! Not convinced it's my best source but ppl are careful not to post names of valid sources and it's the only one I've bought from before. Still glad I joined. Clearly forums like this have to lot to teach me about use. I did order a test kit from amazon to make sure it's legit.

    One question:
    I'm just past 6 weeks on Winni and should be coming off cycle now. I've only got Nolvadex as PCT. While I wait for "Testoxyl Cypionate 250" which says "shipped" but could be 2 weeks away. So...
    Should I stay on until it arrives? Am I risking liver damage? Or does an extra couple weeks make little difference?

    I plan on injecting 100-125mg per week as TRT with the incoming Test Cyp. Does this sound reasonable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    Update: Feeling much better as said site appears to be up and running today and my order says "shipped"! Not convinced it's my best source but ppl are careful not to post names of valid sources and it's the only one I've bought from before. Still glad I joined. Clearly forums like this have to lot to teach me about use. I did order a test kit from amazon to make sure it's legit.

    One question:
    I'm just past 6 weeks on Winni and should be coming off cycle now. I've only got Nolvadex as PCT. While I wait for "Testoxyl Cypionate 250" which says "shipped" but could be 2 weeks away. So...
    Should I stay on until it arrives? Am I risking liver damage? Or does an extra couple weeks make little difference?

    I plan on injecting 1mg per week as TRT with the incoming Test Cyp. Does this sound reasonable?
    there is no point in doing a PCT if your putting yourself on self prescribed TRT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I plan on injecting 1mg per week as TRT with the incoming Test Cyp. Does this sound reasonable?
    I don’t really understand this sentence. Are you planning on weekly self dosing for life? It would be better/easier to go to a doc and get legit TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTdrew View Post
    I don’t really understand this sentence. Are you planning on weekly self dosing for life? It would be better/easier to go to a doc and get legit TRT.
    Yes, I guess it would be for life...
    I assume a real doc will require over a grand when blood work and legit scripts.(?) Does that sound right? (Yes, I'm insured bur $7K out of pocket b4 they pay a dime) Obviously I'd rather have Dr input, just no interested in funding them vast medical industrial complex. Am I being to stubborn? Perhaps (probably) i'm being an idiot. But I don't have the $ to do it the legit way without a go fund me page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    Yes, I guess it would be for life...
    I assume a real doc will require over a grand when blood work and legit scripts.(?) Does that sound right? (Yes, I'm insured bur $7K out of pocket b4 they pay a dime) Obviously I'd rather have Dr input, just no interested in funding them vast medical industrial complex. Am I being to stubborn? Perhaps (probably) i'm being an idiot. But I don't have the $ to do it the legit way without a go fund me page.
    Check with your insurance company and see if a yearly checkup and bloodwork is covered for just a co-pay. With a 7K out of pocket, I would just get my bloodwork done cheap. discounted labs . com and private md labs . com. as KelKel posted. Then get a bottle of Test C, HCG and an AI and go from there. IMHO, get bloodwork done and tritrate your dose up from there. Post your lab results in the TRT section and you will get the best advice on how to continue.

    You really need to know what is going on with your bloodwork. That will tell you everything you need to know. But until you know what your numbers are you will be flying blind and putting yourself at risk for other medical issues.

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    Good news. My product arrived. I checked Kalpa's web site and it confirms the source is a legit supplier. I noticed they now have a .onion site (TOR browser) as well they refer you to in cases where there .biz site is down. I used this site and others to come up with a protocol that I plan to follow for 6 weeks and I'll get some blood tests at that point. I did order some hcg and Arimidex to complete the protocol. Thanks for the advise. Needle was fine and painless for my first time, but am noticing some discomfort where I injected. I assume that's normal? They send me 2ml syringes which seems large but the it is 23 gauge so that's normal right? Thanks again!!

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    Good idea with TOR site
    Alot more companies should offer that as an option

    As far as needles go, barrel size (were liquid goes) is not as much a concern as needles size.

    23g is as big as you need to go, were 25g is a little more comfortable, and 27g even working in some instances.
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    I've been doing the 100mg Test shots a few weeks now and my HCG finally arrived but it's a tiny vial of LIQUID. I guess I still need bacteriostatic water and how much do I mix? All the instructions I find are for powered HCG

    bottle reads: "Highly Purified Chorionic Gonadotrophin - HUCOG 5000 HP - 5000 I.U./1ml"

    I think I need to mix it with 5ml of B.S. water? (RIGHT? or is it 10ml, seem to get different answers online)

    Also I don't see bacterial static water from Amazon, can I pick it up at Rite Aid? Mixing needle and empty vial there without looking suspicious?

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    Bacteriostatic water. You should be able to get it at CVS or a store like that at the pharmacy. Might need an ID. You can just tell them it is for HCG if they ask. You should not need an RX for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I've been doing the 100mg Test shots a few weeks now and my HCG finally arrived but it's a tiny vial of LIQUID. I guess I still need bacteriostatic water and how much do I mix? All the instructions I find are for powered HCG

    bottle reads: "Highly Purified Chorionic Gonadotrophin - HUCOG 5000 HP - 5000 I.U./1ml"

    I think I need to mix it with 5ml of B.S. water? (RIGHT? or is it 10ml, seem to get different answers online)

    Also I don't see bacterial static water from Amazon, can I pick it up at Rite Aid? Mixing needle and empty vial there without looking suspicious?
    get a sterile 10ml vial.
    get bacteriostatic water.
    transfer your 1ml of hCG into sterile vial.
    add 4ml of bac water into sterile vial.
    you know have 500ius of hCG in 5ml of mostly bac water.
    every 0.1ml you inject will be 100ius of hCG.
    inject 0.25ml twice a week to get 250ius twice a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by David LoPan View Post
    Bacteriostatic water. You should be able to get it at CVS or a store like that at the pharmacy. Might need an ID. You can just tell them it is for HCG if they ask. You should not need an RX for it.
    I called around... 2 pharmacies didn't seem to know what bacteriostatic water is and the 3rd told my I needed a scrip. Since it's available online all over the place it seems like another nanny state regulation to fuel the overpriced medical industry that is no longer enforceable. So I'll sit back and wait for the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    get a sterile 10ml vial.
    get bacteriostatic water.
    transfer your 1ml of hCG into sterile vial.
    add 4ml of bac water into sterile vial.
    you know have 500ius of hCG in 5ml of mostly bac water.
    every 0.1ml you inject will be 100ius of hCG.
    inject 0.25ml twice a week to get 250ius twice a week
    Thanks you kind sir, this is exactly the kind of reassurance I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    I called around... 2 pharmacies didn't seem to know what bacteriostatic water is and the 3rd told my I needed a scrip. Since it's available online all over the place it seems like another nanny state regulation to fuel the overpriced medical industry that is no longer enforceable. So I'll sit back and wait for the mail.
    Go to a compounding pharmacy and say it's for reconstruction of Hcg .

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    Download that on your phone. Just say you contaminated the bottle they sent you

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPerm21 View Post
    Update: Feeling much better as said site appears to be up and running today and my order says "shipped"! Not convinced it's my best source but ppl are careful not to post names of valid sources and it's the only one I've bought from before. Still glad I joined. Clearly forums like this have to lot to teach me about use. I did order a test kit from amazon to make sure it's legit.

    One question:
    I'm just past 6 weeks on Winni and should be coming off cycle now. I've only got Nolvadex as PCT. While I wait for "Testoxyl Cypionate 250" which says "shipped" but could be 2 weeks away. So...
    Should I stay on until it arrives? Am I risking liver damage? Or does an extra couple weeks make little difference?

    I plan on injecting 1mg per week as TRT with the incoming Test Cyp. Does this sound reasonable?
    No, you'll need much more than 1mg/week. I'm scripted 150mg/week of cyp, but only inject 60mg E3.5D because that is plenty to put me @ a good place in regards to lab values and how I feel.
    I would suggest you go to the TRT area of the forum and do some reading, particularly the Finding a Dr. sticky written by Kelkel. This way you will know what to talk about when you are looking for a Dr. or if you decide to self medicate, you will learn what labs to pull and how/when to adjust your dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    No, you'll need much more than 1mg/week.
    That was a typo. I should have said 100mg. In truth I've gone with half a ml or 125mg/week. More pushes me out of TRT range I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    get a sterile 10ml vial.
    get bacteriostatic water.
    transfer your 1ml of hCG into sterile vial.
    add 4ml of bac water into sterile vial.
    you know have 500ius of hCG in 5ml of mostly bac water.
    every 0.1ml you inject will be 100ius of hCG.
    inject 0.25ml twice a week to get 250ius twice a week
    Wait. Shouldn't it be 5000ius in those 5ml? It's a 5000iu bottle

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