Tren Mast Test

[Clove1234]

I currently am doing my first cycle, test only. Before i even started that i actually got some Tren , mast and test for free. I planned on using it and wanted to have some advice as far as when i would be ready for it.

I know not to start with more than one AAS. Is there something i should do before i got straight to the stack after my test cycle and pct? Maybe test and an oral?

Any information or opinions appreciated.

[David LoPan]

I see you are 25. Can you post up the rest of your stats like height, weight, BF, and training experience? Test only for your first cycle. I would suggest that you get bloodwork done to see where your natural levels are before you start.

Hold off on the tren and mast. I know it is hard to do when you have it right there but you need to know how you respond to test. Do you have an AI and HCG on hand? Have you read the thread planning and excuiting a first cycle on here?

[Clove1234]

I’m well experienced, power lifter with 4 years heavy lifting experience. In grad school for pt. Medical Diatetics undergrad. I have done probably 200 hours of research before doing this cycle. I’m 25 5’9’’ 195lbs 14% bf

The only thing I didn’t do perfectly is my blood work. Had no choice because of timing to start my cycle before blood work. IM getting it done on the ninth. I did get blood work done last year but don’t have that on hand, my doctor said everthing was fine, i know that’s a relative term. He did however say i had high testosterone for being 24 at the time. No idea what it was.

I do have an ai, and pct on hand. Everything down to macros and dosages on white board to ease my ocd. I’m have absolutely no intentions on doing anything but test this first go around. Feel good now at this point in my cycle. Is there another cycle i should try before doing the test, mast, Tren is what I’m asking. Can I finish this cycle, do my pct then after a few weeks start test, mast, Tren?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I’m well experienced, power lifter with 4 years heavy lifting experience. In grad school for pt. Medical Diatetics undergrad. I have done probably 200 hours of research before doing this cycle. I’m 25 5’9’’ 195lbs 14% bf

The only thing I didn’t do perfectly is my blood work. Had no choice because of timing to start my cycle before blood work. IM getting it done on the ninth. I did get blood work done last year but don’t have that on hand, my doctor said everthing was fine, i know that’s a relative term. He did however say i had high testosterone for being 24 at the time. No idea what it was.

I do have an ai, and pct on hand. Everything down to macros and dosages on white board to ease my ocd. I’m have absolutely no intentions on doing anything but test this first go around. Feel good now at this point in my cycle. Is there another cycle i should try before doing the test, mast, Tren is what I’m asking. Can I finish this cycle, do my pct then after a few weeks start test, mast, Tren?

If you had done 200 hours of research then you would know the answer to this...

No you cannot start a cycle 2 weeks after PCT.
No you shouldn't use tren on your second cycle.

FYI: It is best to use the formula of cycle time plus PCT time equals time off so...
A 12 week cycle plus 2 weeks before PCT start plus 4 weeks of PCT equals 18 weeks before you should start another cycle and...
only if blood work done 8 weeks after the end of PCT shows that you have recovered.

[Clove1234]

Focused my research on first cycle, diet, injecting and what to use as a pct. No reason to spend anytime looking down the road and at that point, months ago I didn’t have free AAS calling my name.

I didn’t not say i was going to start two weeks after, but thanks for the information i do appreciate it. What would be a good second cycle? As stated above, possibly and oral like dbol and test?

[GearHeaded]

a good second cycle is going to based on how you respond to your first cycle of test only . you will learn a lot. you will learn how your body aromatizes, you will learn if your sensitive to estrogen, gyno prone, DHT sensitive, androgen sensitive etc..

based on what you learn THEN you will know whats a good second cycle .

example - if you find you aromatize a ton and are estrogen sensitive and gyno prone, then there would be zero point in doing Test and Dbol for cycle two . you'd be better off with test and T-bol or test and Winny or test and mast.

figure out how your body responds to test, estrogen, and dht. then you'll have a better picture of what cycle two is going to entail.

also figure out how well you recover from your PCT . if you really struggle with recovery and getting natty levels back, then your next cycle may be better running low dose test and var (not that suppressive) compared to test and tren or deca (highly suppressive)

[Clove1234]

Thanks, this is great information. The biggest pain in the ass about AAS and pct is 12 different forums have 12 different opinions. I found this one and it seemed to be the most legit as far as people actually stating facts.

I do have blood work also scheduled for the week after what would be my last week of pct. This will give me an insight as far as what to do the second time around if i choose to do so.

[GearHeaded]

Thanks, this is great information. The biggest pain in the ass about AAS and pct is 12 different forums have 12 different opinions. I found this one and it seemed to be the most legit as far as people actually stating facts.

I do have blood work also scheduled for the week after what would be my last week of pct. This will give me an insight as far as what to do the second time around if i choose to do so.

IF you choose to do so? I'm sure after cycle one that cycle two won't come soon enough

note- keep in mind that the PCT drugs are going to effect and alter your blood work

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Thanks, this is great information. The biggest pain in the ass about AAS and pct is 12 different forums have 12 different opinions. I found this one and it seemed to be the most legit as far as people actually stating facts.

I do have blood work also scheduled for the week after what would be my last week of pct. This will give me an insight as far as what to do the second time around if i choose to do so.

1 week after PCT you will still have PCT meds in your system.
Get bloodwork 8 weeks after PCT ends.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Focused my research on first cycle, diet, injecting and what to use as a pct. No reason to spend anytime looking down the road and at that point, months ago I didn’t have free AAS calling my name.

I didn’t not say i was going to start two weeks after, but thanks for the information i do appreciate it. What would be a good second cycle? As stated above, possibly and oral like dbol and test?

you are correct.
you didn't say two weeks....
you said a few weeks.

FYI: the definition of a few is "a small number of".

[Sh0tsf1red]

I currently am doing my first cycle, test only. Before i even started that i actually got some Tren , mast and test for free. I planned on using it and wanted to have some advice as far as when i would be ready for it.

I know not to start with more than one AAS. Is there something i should do before i got straight to the stack after my test cycle and pct? Maybe test and an oral?

Any information or opinions appreciated.

I'd run a few test only cycles at your age before adding other things, save the tren/mast for your 4th or 5th cycle

It's not a sprint, but a marathon

[Clove1234]

Thanks for the insight, i will change the date of my post cycle blood work. Wasn’t considering the pct drugs being in my system when scheduling.

Do you guys think its even possible to only do one cycle? Lol

[Clove1234]

Another question for you guys since i already have this thread. I have some test prop. Could i have “front loaded” or started my cycle with this to feel the test effects sooner? If so in what stages or doses would i got from prop to cyp

[GearHeaded]

if your front load a cycle its best to run your base amount of test c or e at say 500mg per week , then for the first 4 weeks you simply run 100mg of test prop EOD on top of that. that gets things going fairy quick

[Clove1234]

Sounds good i might do that for the second time around and an oral based on how i react to this cycle. Haven’t had any problems two weeks into this first cycle other than hating needles.

[Jerry2020]

Learn to love the pin! I love pin days, it’s a mental thing but I really like it now after getting through slight nerves with the first couple. I think of it as some of the pain to get to the end result of the gain, certainly no worse than the pain we go through at the gym every day.

Just take the first cycle as it comes. I’m 5 weeks in and up 20lb on Test only, no way would I want strength and weight gains to come any quicker. I think people who add other compounds to first cycles are crazy now, they say there will never be another cycle like your first so enjoy it and save the other stuff for down the track.

[Clove1234]

I actually do enjoy the pain afterwards, idk if that sounds weird. I have enjoyed leg degs since starting.