Incresing tbol from 60mg to 80mg

Second cycle. I've been on test e for 14 weeks, next week is the last one. I have been taking 60mg for 4 weeks (plan was to use it last 7 weeks of cycle. I wasn't feeling much from 60mg ed so maybe the tbol wasn't of good quality. I checked my bloods and everything including liver looked good so I decided to increase the dosage from 60mg to 80mg. 4 days after the increase was the first time I felt anything from the tbol. Good pumps during the day and massive pumps during the workout, the muscles feels full.

But, I just wanted to check with the experienced people if it was a retarded decision to make? Should I just stay at 60mg even though I don't feel anything from it and the bloods look good?

I have written the PCT and adex dosages like 10 times already and got an OK from the gathered knowledge from this forum SO no need to go over it again.

I did the same thing. I felt very little from 60mg tbol daily for a few weeks. Stepped it up to 90mg for the last 2-3 weeks i used it and it made a HUGE difference. Everyones different, thats why most of our first few cycles are a learning experience.

If you've been on cycle for 14 weeks already , then don't expect a whole lot at this point anyways. increasing tbol 20mg is negligible . myostatin is certainly fully upregulated at this point, receptors are saturated, and your growth has probably come to a stopping point (20mg of Tbol one way or the other isn't going to change that)

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

If you've been on cycle for 14 weeks already , then don't expect a whole lot at this point anyways. increasing tbol 20mg is negligible . myostatin is certainly fully upregulated at this point, receptors are saturated, and your growth has probably come to a stopping point (20mg of Tbol one way or the other isn't going to change that)

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I'm not that experienced but the reason that I'm running tbol the last week's instead of as a kickstart was because of the myostatin. Figured I could squeeze out more gains in a 15 week cycle if I ran tbol for the last weeks. But maybe it is to weak to make any impact?

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Originally Posted by n1x0n

I'm not that experienced but the reason that I'm running tbol the last week's instead of as a kickstart was because of the myostatin. Figured I could squeeze out more gains in a 15 week cycle if I ran tbol for the last weeks. But maybe it is to weak to make any impact?

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Tbol is a slow and steady compound . your not going to notice a whole lot out of it at the tail end of a cycle (personally I run it as a stand alone on TRT most the time, sometimes I'' throw it in a cycle as an oral rotation). if your goal was to try and 'blow up' as much you can at the end of a cycle, then Anadrol for last 4 weeks would been best choice.

As for mysotatin , if its already unregulated from being on cycle so long. throwing more anabolics won't do a ton. at this stage is when you need other growth factors that illicit growth apart from myostatin , HGH, Insulin, IGF... if I'm running a long cycle like that (which I rarely do anymore) then I up my growth factor dosages.

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

Tbol is a slow and steady compound . your not going to notice a whole lot out of it at the tail end of a cycle (personally I run it as a stand alone on TRT most the time, sometimes I'' throw it in a cycle as an oral rotation). if your goal was to try and 'blow up' as much you can at the end of a cycle, then Anadrol for last 4 weeks would been best choice.

As for mysotatin , if its already unregulated from being on cycle so long. throwing more anabolics won't do a ton. at this stage is when you need other growth factors that illicit growth apart from myostatin , HGH, Insulin, IGF... if I'm running a long cycle like that (which I rarely do anymore) then I up my growth factor dosages.

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Do you mind stating what dose you run on a stand alone and for how long?

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Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ

Do you mind stating what dose you run on a stand alone and for how long?

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50-70 mg for 8 weeks (sometimes longer but dose gets tapered down)

I stopped my Tbol (SIS LABS) at 80mg a day because 1)I didn't feel shit, even after building from 40mg a day) and 2) the back cramps were a joke.

Turns out many people have issues with severely under doses SIS orals.

Have you considered yours may be under dosed ? Ive read countless reports that 80mg is a huge dosage and should give amazing results.