My 2018 cycle -- He's definitely on Drugs

My goal this year is to have everyone talking about how I'm on steroids. I want the local butcher Jeremy talking outside his shop on the street to Betty who owns the men's shoe store about how I've doubled in size. I want it to be shamefully blatantly obvious that I'm taking drugs to increase my strength and size. I want parents at the local school wondering if they should keep their children away from me as I might be a bad influence.

Week 1-4

Testosterone (4 esters) 300mg eOd
Trenbolone Acetate 150mg eOd
Anadrol 50mg ed

Week 5-10

Testosterone Propionate 25mg eOd
Trenbolone Acetate 200mg eOd
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 200mg eOd
Cabergoline 0.25mg e3d
hCG 140iu eOd

Week 11-16

Testosterone Propionate 25mg eOd
Stanozolol 50mg ed
hCG 140iu eOd

---- Wait 3 days before PCT ---

Week 1-6: Arimidex 0.25mg eOd
Week 1-6: Clenbuterol (20/20/40/40/20/20)
Week 1-6: Nolvadex (40/40/20/20/10/10) -- First week as follows 80/60/40/40/40/40/40
Week 1-4: Clomid (50/25/25/25) -- First week as follows 100/75/50/50/50/50/50

I'm not taking an AI until PCT as there are parts where I want elevated estrogen. I'm taking Clenbuterol at the very end during PCT mainly as an anti-catabolic but I won't complain if it makes me shredded.

I am still considering adding IGF-1 to this cycle, maybe right at the end to minimalise catabolism as I finish PCT.

Will this be your first time on cycle?

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Originally Posted by FireApe

My goal this year is to have everyone talking about how I'm on steroids. I want the local butcher Jeremy talking outside his shop on the street to Betty who owns the men's shoe store about how I've doubled in size. I want it to be shamefully blatantly obvious that I'm taking drugs to increase my strength and size. I want parents at the local school wondering if they should keep their children away from me as I might be a bad influence.

Week 1-4

Testosterone (4 esters) 300mg eOd
Trenbolone Acetate 150mg eOd
Anadrol 50mg ed

Week 5-10

Testosterone Propionate 25mg eOd
Trenbolone Acetate 200mg eOd
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 200mg eOd
Cabergoline 0.25mg e3d
hCG 140iu eOd

Week 11-16

Testosterone Propionate 25mg eOd
Stanozolol 50mg ed
hCG 140iu eOd

---- Wait 3 days before PCT ---

Week 1-6: Arimidex 0.25mg eOd
Week 1-6: Clenbuterol (20/20/40/40/20/20)
Week 1-6: Nolvadex (40/40/20/20/10/10) -- First week as follows 80/60/40/40/40/40/40
Week 1-4: Clomid (50/25/25/25) -- First week as follows 100/75/50/50/50/50/50

I'm not taking an AI until PCT as there are parts where I want elevated estrogen. I'm taking Clenbuterol at the very end during PCT mainly as an anti-catabolic but I won't complain if it makes me shredded.

I am still considering adding IGF-1 to this cycle, maybe right at the end to minimalise catabolism as I finish PCT.

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If you decided not to use your gear,i suppose you could start your own pharmaceutical company.

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Originally Posted by SwoleAnchelada

Will this be your first time on cycle?

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I think I'm on about 8 or 9 cycles now. The last 4 or so have been on the Tren train.

I think you're going to eventually crash your E2

This is heavy man, i know in the grand scheme of things people run a lot more.. but play it safe, you can get just as good of results from 100mg tren eod as oppose to 200mg!

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Originally Posted by kelkel

I think you're going to eventually crash your E2

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I don't see how my estrogen level could become very low during the first 16 weeks.

Do you mean during my 6-week PCT? If so, is it because of the 0.25mg Arimidex eOd?

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Originally Posted by Eduke93

This is heavy man, i know in the grand scheme of things people run a lot more.. but play it safe, you can get just as good of results from 100mg tren eod as oppose to 200mg!

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I reckon there will be a noticeable difference when I drop the Anadrol, turn the Test way down low, double the Tren and add in NPP.

Yes I certainly do think there will be a noticeable evolution of sorts.

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Originally Posted by FireApe

I think I'm on about 8 or 9 cycles now. The last 4 or so have been on the Tren train.

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If you have been on 8 or 9 cycles already then people should already know you are on steroids.

What are your stats?

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Originally Posted by FireApe

Do you mean during my 6-week PCT? If so, is it because of the 0.25mg Arimidex eOd?

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Yes. That's a normal amount for a 500 mgs test cycle.

Less is more sometimes

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Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

If you have been on 8 or 9 cycles already then people should already know you are on steroids.

What are your stats?

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yep thinking the same thing

Looks like a well planned cycle overall but I would run the test differently.. Why go from a ester blend to prop in the 5th week and why are you dropping it so low..??

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Originally Posted by kelkel

Yes. That's a normal amount for a 500 mgs test cycle.

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0.25mg e2d works out at 0.86mg/wk.

What do you reckon if I reduce it, either:
0.25mg e3d (0.58mg/wk)
0.125mg e2d (0.44mg/wk)

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Originally Posted by AlphaMindz

Looks like a well planned cycle overall but I would run the test differently.. Why go from a ester blend to prop in the 5th week and why are you dropping it so low..??

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For the first 4 weeks I want to blow up, I'm OK with water retention. For the next 6 weeks I want lean gains (so I lower the test), and for the last 6 weeks I want to be dry and hard (so I switch to Stanazolol).

Should I run IGF-1 through this cycle too?

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Originally Posted by FireApe

0.25mg e2d works out at 0.86mg/wk.

What do you reckon if I reduce it, either:
0.25mg e3d (0.58mg/wk)
0.125mg e2d (0.44mg/wk)

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You probably do not need it at all. You're coming off a low TRT dose of test so your E2 will not be high.

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Originally Posted by kelkel

You probably do not need it at all. You're coming off a low TRT dose of test so your E2 will not be high.

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There's a sticky thread in the PCT forum says to use Arimidex during PCT. That's what I was going by.

Gonna look up IGF-1 prices and doses, see if it's viable.

It's probably old. Yes, serms will work better in the presence of low E but it doesn't have to be tanked at all. Clomid works by making the hypothalamus "think" that there's no estrogen present, there doesn't have to be no estrogen present.

This guy has been banned from here on several occasions under several different names.

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Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

This guy has been banned from here on several occasions under several different names.

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I play the harp now though. A weekly hour-long lesson with a group of four beginners, plus I practise for an hour by myself when I get home from the gym on weekday mornings.

I like the Adrol in there with the Tren the first part of the cycle

I like the NPP in there with the Tren the second part of the cycle

BUT, if you want real growth the second part of the cycle is too "dry". the test is too low and there are no estrogenic compounds in there. Either up your dosage of the test big time, or add in another wet compound like Dbol to give you some water retention and estrogen (which by itself will elevate your IGF .. you won't even need to add exogenous IGF to this if you run Tren with high estrogen).
maybe even drop the AI all together. Add in a small dose of a SERM like nolva or Ralox if your afraid of gyno issues.


note: as for your question about running IGF. you won't need it on this cycle if you do it right. I personally have ran IGF, HGH, Insulin for years .. BUT , I do NOT normally run exogenous IGF when on a heavy Tren cycle like you have posted. you'll have plenty of endogenous IGF .. save the exogenous IGF for pct or a cruise.