How frequently do you take roids?

Hallo,

I am very new to roids, so my deep apology if I ask smt. that has been answered thousand times or indefinite question.


I have been working out for 7 years. Sometimes very intensively, I am no newby to lifting weights and physical exercise.


How often do you do roids? I understand one anabolic cycle might be between 6 to 10 weeks, so given that, what is your pause time between them? Or how many months a year do you do them?


I have been taking some beginners not really toxic little effect things like Testosterone Propionate, boostend my workouts, I was pretty happy. I felt practically no toxic effects whatsoever and post cycle syndromes really minimal. I would like to return to goodies again, wonder how much can I do it?


Thanx.

Most guys that are serious about bodybuilding are on year round and have times where dosages are high, and down times where dosages are lower.

if your not that serious but want to add enhancements,,, then 2-3 short cycles (8-10 weeks) per year is fine.

I think everyone is different.

I think you need to read the 'my first cycle' stickie as the way you described your 'none toxic' cycle sounds VERY vague.

Did you get Pre, Mid and Post bloods done?
What Serms were you using on cycle ?
What was in your PCT?
Did you use hCG


These are all improrant.

If you did 10 weeks on cycle + a 4 week PCT, you need 14 weeks before jumping on AAS again and its important to get your bloods done (again) to check everything is good....

Keeping safe on cycle is not cheap lol

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Originally Posted by PeterEU

I have been taking some beginners not really toxic little effect things like Testosterone Propionate, boostend my workouts,

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Explain that a bit more.

Thank you very much for your reply and yes, I will definitely read those things. I just registered and I am kinda planning this year so... :)

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Originally Posted by kelkel

Explain that a bit more.

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Uhm... when I took Oxandrolone Genesis for instance, table form, I could see a bit puffy eyes (similar to when I drink coffee...), I had tiny bit odd taste in my mouth (sometimes), maybe a bit greasier skin... none of that applied when I took syringe with Testosterone Propionate... I just felt all right and my training performance was better. But I did not do any blood tests and as guys suggest I should do, so yes, I will definitely do it next time and will be not okay with just "yeah, I don't look like I am dying so no problemo"... :D

Also, I had more energy, felt better (a bit euphoric, sometimes), a tiny bit lifted more (I did not train for strength that time so it was very hard to compare) but generally I felt a bit stronger than usual.

Sorry I am noob... :/

I blast and cruise. Done a little more blasting over the last eight months than I normally would, trying to get back to where I want to be. I'll probably run two blast this year, cut this spring and a bulk this fall

2 times a week 52 weeks a year. TRT for over 13 years. Do run a cycle every now and then.

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Originally Posted by guitarzan

I blast and cruise. Done a little more blasting over the last eight months than I normally would, trying to get back to where I want to be. I'll probably run two blast this year, cut this spring and a bulk this fall

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Likewise... Started trt last year so never have to worry about pct again....f*ck yeah:7up:

If you want to be conservative, 3 Test cycles every 2 years. A lot of guys will run 2 Test cycles per year.

As frequent as possible!

I’m thinking I’m gonna be on the two cycle a year plan. Really enjoying AAS thus far lol

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Originally Posted by Clove1234

I’m thinking I’m gonna be on the two cycle a year plan. Really enjoying AAS thus far lol

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I highly recommend rotating compounds , learning all your classes of steriods from class 1 to class 2, then your derivitive classes of steroids from progesterones to dht's. that way you can properly run a year long blast without desenstitization and issues like that.

I know a lot of vets on here will say cycle 1 should be test and cycle 2 test and maybe cycle 3 dbol and then by cycle 4 its deca.. etc..

thats fine and dandy for traditional PCT guys.. but the rules and things change when you commit to long cycles and blast and cruise Imo..
you gotta be smart , well planned, and educated about the processes and know what your doing .
otherwise its a waste of your HEALTH and your money and your potential gains!

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Originally Posted by PeterEU

Hallo,

I am very new to roids, so my deep apology if I ask smt. that has been answered thousand times or indefinite question.


I have been working out for 7 years. Sometimes very intensively, I am no newby to lifting weights and physical exercise.


How often do you do roids? I understand one anabolic cycle might be between 6 to 10 weeks, so given that, what is your pause time between them? Or how many months a year do you do them?


I have been taking some beginners not really toxic little effect things like Testosterone Propionate, boostend my workouts, I was pretty happy. I felt practically no toxic effects whatsoever and post cycle syndromes really minimal. I would like to return to goodies again, wonder how much can I do it?


Thanx.

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I would read all of the information you can find on this and other reputable forums

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I highly recommend rotating compounds , learning all your classes of steriods from class 1 to class 2, then your derivitive classes of steroids from progesterones to dht's. that way you can properly run a year long blast without desenstitization and issues like that.

I know a lot of vets on here will say cycle 1 should be test and cycle 2 test and maybe cycle 3 dbol and then by cycle 4 its deca.. etc..

thats fine and dandy for traditional PCT guys.. but the rules and things change when you commit to long cycles and blast and cruise Imo..
you gotta be smart , well planned, and educated about the processes and know what your doing .
otherwise its a waste of your HEALTH and your money and your potential gains!

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Definately agree with this, although i have still learned a done while on this recent cycle. I researched for months before just starting my test e cycle. Will do the same for the next one. Already doing research for the next and I’m not finished with my current cycle.

Not wasting money and keeping my health intact is my primary drive for doing so, plus i just have general interest in this topic. Only been here for two months and already see that there is 25 threads a week from someone who made an account, didn’t read a thing, posted a thread. Irritating

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I highly recommend rotating compounds , learning all your classes of steriods from class 1 to class 2, then your derivitive classes of steroids from progesterones to dht's. that way you can properly run a year long blast without desenstitization and issues like that.!

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I don't believe in desensitization to steroids.
If anything our body responds by producing more androgen receptors thus making us more sensitive not less.

I don't believe a single person on this forum needs to run a year long blast.

I think the whole rotating steroids fad got made highly popular by Rich Piana. RIP. I think he was more concerned about his image and wallet rather than peoples health or the truth.

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Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

I don't believe in desensitization to steroids.
If anything our body responds by producing more androgen receptors thus making us more sensitive not less.

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yes and no . more steroids will make us produce more androgen receptors over time.. so will drugs like Synthetine. "de-sensitiztion" of steroids in pure text book and biological terms is not really possible (as my steroid abusing top shelf world renowned biologist and strength coach Broderick Chavez would suggest)..

however , if you have enough practical experience in these matters, you find that ''de-sensitization" occurs in other ways that are not text book .. like long term negative side effects that essentially make non desesnsitization a non issue because of all other issues..
example -- if you stay on 1gram of EQ for a year straight your hematocrit might go to 57 which is bad.. so maybe your not quite desensitized at the receptor level but you SURE AS FUCK ARE desensitized at the bad side effects level !! you should of rotated compounds before this fucking happened in the first place !!!!!!!!!

not sure why you want to misconstrue my posts , and compare me to drug dealers and people like rich piana (only thing he rotates was oxycotin with cocaine)

Was anxiously awaiting this response

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Originally Posted by Clove1234

Was anxiously awaiting this response

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the inability in text book terms to de-sensitzie to steroids is a REAL thing. YES your body will produce more androgen receptors.
NO this is not a real thing in practical terms working with real people over time based on real expericenes.. because the negative effects of one drugs long term use will over ride the 'non de-sensitiztion' factors..
so for most of the audience here .. thinking about "de-sensitiztion'' of a steroid in practical terms is more useful..

even though Deadlift dog, if he sticks to his book smart and non practical application ,, may advocate staying on Tren for 30 years straight cause "de-sensitiztion" by the text books does not really exist, will have no real practical benefit (he probably learned about "de-sensitation" to steroids from a you tube video a day or so ago). but I guarantee from practical experience there is a real type of de-sensitiztiaon like I stated in above post.

-- keep in mind that dead lift dog doesn't even do steroids,, pretty sure he's a TRT only guy

GearHeaded,

I am not here to fight. Quite simply, you said....

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Originally Posted by GearHeaded

I highly recommend rotating compounds , learning all your classes of steriods from class 1 to class 2, then your derivitive classes of steroids from progesterones to dht's. that way you can properly run a year long blast without desenstitization and issues like that.!

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I said I don't believe in desensitization.

You then agreed that there is no desensitization and even stated that your world renowned biologist and strength coach agrees.

Then you tried to classify health side effects as a form of desensitization.

Hell, health side effects are why I stated why no-one on this forum should run year long blasts. You are the one who said people can run year long blasts without "desenstitization and issues like that".

Let me put my opinion out there simply....
It is impossible to run a year long blast in a healthy manner.
I don't care how many times you change up your drug protocol.
To suggest otherwise is asinine.

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Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

Let me put my opinion out there simply....
It is impossible to run a year long blast in a healthy manner.
I don't care how many times you change up your drug protocol.
To suggest otherwise is asinine.

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never said it was healthy. everyone knows blasting gear for a year straight is not healthy.. thats a given.
have no clue why your jumping in here to argue with me saying that rotating compounds is unhealthy (like I'm somehow saying it is healthy lol )

BUT if your going to choose to do this then the best way to do it is by rotating compounds , to keep from a 'type' of desensitization or to keep from 'spill over' from running to high a dose of a single compound for too long.
this is the "healthier" option. and I have no clue why you or anyone else would be opposed to this idea

example- if your blast is 2 grams. blasting 2000mg per week of deca for a year straight is not a good idea. it would be better to run a combination of class 1 and class 2 drugs that work via different mechanisms and thus won't 'spill over' or cause near as many negative sides.
eg.. 1g of Pirmo , 500mg test, 500 drol,, then swap the drol out with Var or drop the primo down and add 800mg of EQ, then at some point drop those and run NPP etc etc.. better results and fewer negative sides.. and less "desensitization" (I'm not using that word in a text book way)