New to terms, did research, looking for experienced users opinions

**UnStoppableATL** · 01-20-2018, 07:50 AM

What’s going on guyys!

I met a guy at the gym that provided me with some AAS. He says for my goals, he’d recommend test and tren . Not sure what those are so I googled it and did my research. Research says exactly what he told me. The Tren is for cutting, stacked with the test for bulking. It’s the same what he uses. Anyone else uses these 2 stacked? And how are the results? I’ve read that if you run the siringe through warm water first before injecting. Thanks in advanced

**Clove1234** · 01-20-2018, 07:58 AM

Read the first cycle sticky and save us all some time. Just test 500mg a week for your first cycle. Definitely don’t use that Tren

**David LoPan** · 01-20-2018, 09:08 AM

500mg test, AI and hcg is all you need woth a good diet, base and hitting the gym hard. Then pct

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**kelkel** · 01-20-2018, 09:50 AM

If you're looking just to cut then you don't need AAS at all unless you have a comp imminent.
Tren should not be a consideration until you have several cycles under your belt.
Your "friend" is quite reckless with your health suggesting to do so.

**UnStoppableATL** · 01-20-2018, 11:11 AM

Thanks for the input. So I definitely should not use Tren .what are the draw backs of using Tren ? Would it be better to use small dosages?

**Jerry2020** · 01-20-2018, 04:26 PM

I think you’re falling into the trap of thinking exactly what I thought before I started my first cycle. Why not take a bulking compound and a cutting compound and get the best of both worlds? This is a recomposition cycle and is much harder than it sounds.

You will do better from doing a couple of bulking cycles and then doing a cut. There is a reason most people do a bulk or cut and not a recomp, recomps are very hard to do well especially if it’s your first cycle and you have no idea how you’ll be reacting to things.

Do a Test only first cycle, and train and EAT like an animal. You’ll be better for it. And keep away from Tren for a while, the fact you are considering it means you have no idea of the side effects it has, I don’t know if I will ever use it, for the average Joe there are probably better and friendlier cutting compounds, just depends how far you wanna go

**guitarzan** · 01-20-2018, 04:56 PM

Tren would be stacked with test weather you're cutting or bulking. Diet determines if it's cut or bulk.

**charger69** · 01-20-2018, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Tren would be stacked with test weather you're cutting or bulking. Diet determines if it's cut or bulk.

Thank you. I was waiting for someone to set things straight.

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**David LoPan** · 01-20-2018, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Tren would be stacked with test weather you're cutting or bulking. Diet determines if it's cut or bulk.

Tren loves those caleries. Tren can be a tricky bitch.

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**UnStoppableATL** · 01-20-2018, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Tren would be stacked with test weather you're cutting or bulking. Diet determines if it's cut or bulk.

That’s definitely Is a game changer statement. Thanks for the input.

**GearHeaded** · 01-20-2018, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by UnStoppableATL

Thanks for the input. So I definitely should not use Tren .what are the draw backs of using Tren ? Would it be better to use small dosages?

drawbacks , hmmm let me see. possibly going to prison for 5+ years (tren is contraband, similar to cocaine, its a scheduled drug its not something like Deca that gets prescribed by doctors) , possibly having very ill health (it will wreck havoc on your blood and lipid profile as well as kidneys, blood pressure, heart, etc.), possibly ruining your relationship with your gf wife or kids (tren brings out a lot of mental issues for a lot of guys), etc etc.. the list goes on.

PLUS you've never even ran a cycle . Tren should not even be in your vocabulary at this point.

having said all that, I love Tren and its one of my favorite compounds to run

however I'm 40 years old and did my first steroid injection at 17. I've studied and researched AAS for a very long time. so I'd advise you to spend some time learning and researching.

something thats more anabolic then Tren is food , hitting the diet section of these forums will probably yield the best overall gains then anything else

**David LoPan** · 01-20-2018, 08:46 PM

Another draw back is it will mess up your sleep pattern. Some other AAS will do this as well but not like tren . Dreams on tren can be strange as hell for some guys.

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**charger69** · 01-21-2018, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by David LoPan

Another draw back is it will mess up your sleep pattern. Some other AAS will do this as well but not like tren . Dreams on tren can be strange as hell for some guys.

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I am sure your dreams are of girls in yoga pants. LOL

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**David LoPan** · 01-21-2018, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

I am sure your dreams are of girls in yoga pants. LOL

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Started out with then in yoga pants

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**ScotchGuard02** · 01-22-2018, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by UnStoppableATL

What’s going on guyys!

I met a guy at the gym that provided me with some AAS. He says for my goals, he’d recommend test and tren. Not sure what those are so I googled it and did my research. Research says exactly what he told me. The Tren is for cutting, stacked with the test for bulking. It’s the same what he uses. Anyone else uses these 2 stacked? And how are the results? I’ve read that if you run the siringe through warm water first before injecting. Thanks in advanced

Do not run Test/Tren as your first cycle. You could get hurt. Just read https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html and it'll answer all your first cycle questions.

**songdog** · 01-22-2018, 10:56 AM

Your friend at the gym knows very little about aas because you don't start out with the strongest compound on your 1st several cycles you don't need it.DIET and test will get you where you want to be.There are way too many guys out there using tren long before they need to and yes not even a lil bit.Listen to the advice given here because we do things the safe way.

**diesel101** · 01-22-2018, 12:01 PM

Do your research and never listen to the "that guy at the gym" just remember people selling AAS are still drug dealers and very few have any knowledge or even experience with steroids and they certainly don't have your best interest in mind.
As mentioned above tren can be a very useful compound when used properly but in my opinion it definitely is the "the dark side" and not everyone can handle it.

**David LoPan** · 01-22-2018, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

Do your research and never listen to the "that guy at the gym" just remember people selling AAS are still drug dealers and very few have any knowledge or even experience with steroids and they certainly don't have your best interest in mind.
As mentioned above tren can be a very useful compound when used properly but in my opinion it definitely is the "the dark side" and not everyone can handle it.

And you never know what you will get from "that guy" either. Might just be grapeseed oil. I have seen it happen.

**UnStoppableATL** · 02-06-2018, 04:41 AM

Thanks for all the input, he’s on it too as well. Mixed inputs on different opinions. I’ll let you guys know how my first cycle goes! Pray for me lol

**fit_deskjocky** · 02-06-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by UnStoppableATL

Mixed inputs on different opinions.

I don't think you got any mixed inputs or different opinions from anyone here. All said no to the Tren . Tren should scare you. There is a general lack of respect for Tren. Did he also provide you with an AI, HCG and PCT meds?

**ScotchGuard02** · 02-06-2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by UnStoppableATL

Thanks for all the input, he’s on it too as well. Mixed inputs on different opinions. I’ll let you guys know how my first cycle goes! Pray for me lol

Running a cycle is not voodoo or rocket science. Just read the stickie on how to run a successful 1st cycle and you will be golden. You can have a great experience on your first cycle if you are prepared with the correct information and correct gear.