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    4 months off, still struggling

    Hey fellas, my last post was when I decided to come off for good. In a nutshell, I was running nine month cycles and taking three months off. During cycle I would blast an cruise. So I would do 3-4 months blast, 1.5 month cruise and the remainder blast again.

    On my last blast, I noticed that my libido issues had gotten significantly worse. Like even with viagra my erectile dysfunction was so bad that I couldnít do anything even though I was still on test. This is what made me freak out and decided enough is enough. So I went off and did a good PCT. Initially at the start of PCT, my junk was useless. It got a little better about a month later. But Iím still having serious issues with ed. I mean, Iím still taking viagra and it doesnít do a damn thing. I noticed stacking liquid cialis and popping an Indian generic levitra works. Itís the only thing that works and itís not a guarantee. Sometimes itís good sometimes itís ok. So now Iím wondering, being at the 4 month mark, am I too soon to be expecting improvement. Look at this point Iím pretty sure my penis will not work fine on itís own ever again. It may get better but itíll never be great. My main concern is that it works when I use impotence drugs that they actually work the way they used to! My viagra and levitra are both Indian generics. Neither do a damn thing. Even if I take 2. So maybe itís the quality thatís not good? Itís the same brands Iíve used in the past and they used to work great. So I donít know if their quality went down or if Iím just really messed up?

    My bloodwork from a month ago came back good except for test which was at 370. Iím not sure, should I wait longer till I can expect some improvement? My main question is, has anyone ever had that issue where their dick was completely dead even with impotence drugs and eventually regained function? Cause right now Iím praying things get better.

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    Hey Mate, sorry to hear the problems you are going through. I’m no expert especially considering the type of cycles you used and the lengths. But here’s my advice. One of my mates did some blasts and cruising for years and he would tell me it took no less than 8 months before things went back to normal for him. Myself I had kind of a rough time last year after a cycle i did, it took a while to get back to normal but the thing I did was, I just didn’t concentrate on it. I think this becomes the main issue, it’s mentally taxing and that causes you to stress more and that’s the last thing you want. I would get off all drugs and let your body rest. Give it time you will come good. Try and find some hobbies and enjoy life. Rest yourself mentally mate and stop thinking about trying to force your sex life back so fast , just forget about it and one day you’ll be suprised and things would have returned. Just rest up and freshen up mentally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordluke View Post
    Hey Mate, sorry to hear the problems you are going through. I’m no expert especially considering the type of cycles you used and the lengths. But here’s my advice. One of my mates did some blasts and cruising for years and he would tell me it took no less than 8 months before things went back to normal for him. Myself I had kind of a rough time last year after a cycle i did, it took a while to get back to normal but the thing I did was, I just didn’t concentrate on it. I think this becomes the main issue, it’s mentally taxing and that causes you to stress more and that’s the last thing you want. I would get off all drugs and let your body rest. Give it time you will come good. Try and find some hobbies and enjoy life. Rest yourself mentally mate and stop thinking about trying to force your sex life back so fast , just forget about it and one day you’ll be suprised and things would have returned. Just rest up and freshen up mentally.
    You know what bro, that’s the best advice I’ve heard in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicep321 View Post
    You know what bro, that’s the best advice I’ve heard in a long time.
    Mate I could be wrong and would be good to hear from some of the veterans here who have more experience, but no matter what mate just focus on enjoying your life and staying positive.

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    Sexual dysfunction is never fun. I've been through it myself, both ED and anorgasmia. You're still young and the chances are that you're going to bounce back. Going on a blast/cruise for so long at such a young age, you've pretty much shut your HPTA down for a while. Would you list out your "good" PCT? What compounds, what concentration, and for how long? I normally run a four week PCT of Clomid (100/50/50/50) and Nolvadex (40/20/20/20). That 100mg of Clomid and 40mg of Nolvadex everyday for the first week and then drop each dose by half for the next three weeks. Take 5mg of Cialis everyday. This isn't for your ED, even though it will help. I take 5mg Cialis everyday as it helps me get a better pump and keeps my plumbing working. Then give your body time to recover. It might take 6 months or it might take a year. It does take some time. You can do blood work and try to self medicate or go get professional help. In the end, your body just needs time. You can't cycle until you've fully recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicep321 View Post
    Hey fellas, my last post was when I decided to come off for good. In a nutshell, I was running nine month cycles and taking three months off. During cycle I would blast an cruise. So I would do 3-4 months blast, 1.5 month cruise and the remainder blast again.

    On my last blast, I noticed that my libido issues had gotten significantly worse. Like even with viagra my erectile dysfunction was so bad that I couldnít do anything even though I was still on test. This is what made me freak out and decided enough is enough. So I went off and did a good PCT. Initially at the start of PCT, my junk was useless. It got a little better about a month later. But Iím still having serious issues with ed. I mean, Iím still taking viagra and it doesnít do a damn thing. I noticed stacking liquid cialis and popping an Indian generic levitra works. Itís the only thing that works and itís not a guarantee. Sometimes itís good sometimes itís ok. So now Iím wondering, being at the 4 month mark, am I too soon to be expecting improvement. Look at this point Iím pretty sure my penis will not work fine on itís own ever again. It may get better but itíll never be great. My main concern is that it works when I use impotence drugs that they actually work the way they used to! My viagra and levitra are both Indian generics. Neither do a damn thing. Even if I take 2. So maybe itís the quality thatís not good? Itís the same brands Iíve used in the past and they used to work great. So I donít know if their quality went down or if Iím just really messed up?

    My bloodwork from a month ago came back good except for test which was at 370. Iím not sure, should I wait longer till I can expect some improvement? My main question is, has anyone ever had that issue where their dick was completely dead even with impotence drugs and eventually regained function? Cause right now Iím praying things get better.
    Hi try runnung hcg at 1500.000.00 iu's a week.I hears ppl say they had the same issues and did this protocall with positive results.I no its a extreamly hi dose but this is what they did.Oh and when u start the hcg its gotta be 2 weeks frim your last injection of test.Good luck..joe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Sexual dysfunction is never fun. I've been through it myself, both ED and anorgasmia. You're still young and the chances are that you're going to bounce back. Going on a blast/cruise for so long at such a young age, you've pretty much shut your HPTA down for a while. Would you list out your "good" PCT? What compounds, what concentration, and for how long? I normally run a four week PCT of Clomid (100/50/50/50) and Nolvadex (40/20/20/20). That 100mg of Clomid and 40mg of Nolvadex everyday for the first week and then drop each dose by half for the next three weeks. Take 5mg of Cialis everyday. This isn't for your ED, even though it will help. I take 5mg Cialis everyday as it helps me get a better pump and keeps my plumbing working. Then give your body time to recover. It might take 6 months or it might take a year. It does take some time. You can do blood work and try to self medicate or go get professional help. In the end, your body just needs time. You can't cycle until you've fully recovered.
    My PCT was clomid 100/100/50/50 then I did another month of clomid every other day as suggested by my endocrinologist. Nolvadex was 40/20/20/20/20/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebx.2017 View Post
    Hi try runnung hcg at 1500.000.00 iu's a week.I hears ppl say they had the same issues and did this protocall with positive results.I no its a extreamly hi dose but this is what they did.Oh and when u start the hcg its gotta be 2 weeks frim your last injection of test.Good luck..joe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebx.2017 View Post
    Hi try runnung hcg at 1500.000.00 iu's a week.I hears ppl say they had the same issues and did this protocall with positive results.I no its a extreamly hi dose but this is what they did.Oh and when u start the hcg its gotta be 2 weeks frim your last injection of test.Good luck..joe..

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    How much are you recommending he take? Your number doesn't make any since, has two decimals?

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    Quick foundational question. What was your last cycle stack and dosages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Quick foundational question. What was your last cycle stack and dosages?
    I’ll split it into three...

    First blast 5 months:
    500mg of test
    500mg of tren enanthate
    .25mg Adex every day
    .25mg of caber twice a week
    250iu hcg twice a week

    Cruise 1.5 months:
    250mg of test enth

    Final blast 2 months:
    750mg test
    500mg tren ace
    Same ancillaries as before

    Note that prolactin actually came back at zero on two different occasions from that dosage of caber. It’s now in normal range. Also I was still having a pretty good sex life while I was cruising with a very moderate amount of cialis being used. The serious issues began in that final blast.

    Ps I don’t think I ran the enanthate for the full 5 months. I started the cycle out with just test then added the tren. I think it was a total of 3-3.5 months of tren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    How much are you recommending he take? Your number doesn't make any since, has two decimals?
    Your rite im sorry about that..I was trying to say 1500 iu's eod os roughly 5000 iu's a week for 3 weeks and most ppl also throw in 50mg of clomid for 3 weeks as well but it has to be 2 after his last injection so that what ever ester will be pretty much cleared out by this time.Now a tipical bottle of hcg comes 5000 iu's standard..So that will be 3 full bottles of hcg..I no it sounds like typical pct therepy without the novadex.And its not very expensive either 1 bottle of hcg should run him about 50.00 a 5000 iu bottle so that X3.And im pretty sure 30 tabs of clomid at 50mg a dose should run him around 50.00 also..So im estamate around 200.00 for this type of protocall.Good luck with that brother...Joe...

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