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    LOW T before cycle!

    Iím 29 and have low T. Iíve been on injections for about a year. 2ML a month. I want to try a cycle of Anavar , but I know that it can hinder T production or completely stop it at higher doses. So should I get on a cycle or not?

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    Why anavar ?

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    if your on TRT and taking exogenous test, you have no T production anyways. your T comes from a needle not your balls.. so no the VAR won't be an issue effecting natty production

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    What he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallalderman View Post
    I’m 29 and have low T. I’ve been on injections for about a year. 2ML a month. I want to try a cycle of Anavar, but I know that it can hinder T production or completely stop it at higher doses. So should I get on a cycle or not?

    Gotta ask, what exactly is your protocol? Injection amount and frequency?
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    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/mL, 2mL a month. I do one 1mL twice a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Gotta ask, what exactly is your protocol? Injection amount and frequency?

    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/mL, 2mL a month. I do one 1mL twice a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallalderman View Post
    Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/mL, 2mL a month. I do one 1mL twice a month.

    Assuming that's doctor prescribed it's a horrible protocol. It shows that your doctor doesn't understand hormones and their half lives. He's dosing you on the terminal life of the drug, not it's half life. Basically putting you on a hormonal roller coaster ride. You inject your dose, it peaks in about a day then it begins a slow decline where after two weeks you have very little left in your system. Take a look at this pic to visualize it:




    Test has a half life of about 5 days or so, metabolism dependent. At a bare minimum the injections need to be weekly and with what you're prescribed you can go with 100 mgs. An even better protocol would be to inject 50 mgs twice per week for even more stable T levels. I'm hoping you self inject? Twice per week is what most of the top docs in the industry recommend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Assuming that's doctor prescribed it's a horrible protocol. It shows that your doctor doesn't understand hormones and their half lives. He's dosing you on the terminal life of the drug, not it's half life. Basically putting you on a hormonal roller coaster ride. You inject your dose, it peaks in about a day then it begins a slow decline where after two weeks you have very little left in your system. Take a look at this pic to visualize it:


    Test has a half life of about 5 days or so, metabolism dependent. At a bare minimum the injections need to be weekly and with what you're prescribed you can go with 100 mgs. An even better protocol would be to inject 50 mgs twice per week for even more stable T levels. I'm hoping you self inject? Twice per week is what most of the top docs in the industry recommend.
    Yes I do self inject. This makes a lot of sense to me, because a couple days after Injection I feel amazing. And your right toward the end of week one and into week two I can feel myself start to decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallalderman View Post
    Yes I do self inject. This makes a lot of sense to me, because a couple days after Injection I feel amazing. And your right toward the end of week one and into week two I can feel myself start to decline.
    Outstanding then. I'd strongly suggest 50mgs x 2 per week. It can even be effectively done subquetaneously via an insulin syringe anywhere you can pinch a little fat. Normally about an inch or so either side of the navel. You'll be a new man in no time.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17143361

    If you can, let me know how you do in a month or so. PM me if you like.
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    If you can, let me know how you do in a month or so. PM me if you like.[/QUOTE]

    Absolutely, thanks for all the info. Once I get this lined out and lose more body fat, I would eventually like to try a cycle of VAR, am I gonna need to take more Test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallalderman View Post
    If you can, let me know how you do in a month or so. PM me if you like.
    Absolutely, thanks for all the info. Once I get this lined out and lose more body fat, I would eventually like to try a cycle of VAR, am I gonna need to take more Test?[/QUOTE]

    After getting dialed in with TRT sure you can. Var is a very safe oral. More test is not necessary but it simply depends on your goals.
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