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    Mid-Tren Ace Cycle Blood Work

    I'm mid 30's, 245lbs, 12% BF and I'm 7 weeks into my cycle of...

    Test Cyp 250mg per week 1-12
    Tren Ace 500mg per week 3-12
    Caber .5mg 2x week
    Liquidex .125mg ED

    I really haven't noticed any of the bad Tren sides yet. Light sweating during sleep but nothing else. My AST/ALT and LDL are high, while T4 appears low. Any thoughts or ideas would be helpful and very appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for everyone's time and help
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    Odds are your creatinine being elevated is due to dehydration.
    ALT/AST are fine. They elevate simply due to working out.
    HDL is low as tren crushes it. Always does. No need to run it 10 weeks. 6-8 is fine. Take NAC and Slo-Niacin.
    I wouldn't worry about thyroid yet. It's just a snapshot in time unless you have a history of thyroid BW to compare it to.
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    with only 250mg per week of test, that is putting you at only 900+ ng/dl of total test.. so you really don't need to be running that much arimidex everyday. that along with the Tren is effecting your HDL. you sensitive estrogen results show your in the low normal range. so again, really doubt your needing that much adex (you'll probably feel better, make better gains, and have a better lipid profile without it)

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    Wouldn't Tren read as part of the total T count? I feel like 900 is super low considering being on Tren...

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    Great! Thx!! How much NAC? Would Milk Thistle help too or unnecessary?

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    Should I ditch the AI altogether??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Wouldn't Tren read as part of the total T count? I feel like 900 is super low considering being on Tren...
    no.
    tren is not testosterone .

    the only steroid that gets gives a false testosterone reading is nandralone (deca /NPP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    no.
    tren is not testosterone .

    the only steroid that gets gives a false testosterone reading is nandralone (deca/NPP).
    No sh*t I did NOT know that....That's interesting. But isn't Tren a derivative of nandrolone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertonk View Post
    Should I ditch the AI altogether??
    depends on your goal of this cycle. .. if your trying to get dry and hard then leave it in there. if your trying to grow then pull it.
    if your Estrogen sensitive leave it in. but for most guys that low of a dose of test its not needed

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    I was under the impression that androgenic steroids read as testosterone on hormone panels and straight anabolics did not. I'm intrigued. Def gotta do some research on this.

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    Supertonk,

    what brand of test are you running?
    My guess is that it is underdosed.
    We are all different but 250mg of test usually puts people higher then 997. Think about it this way, you are just above range taking 250mg a week. 80mg of precscription test puts me at about 700. 500mg of Balkan test C put me at 3700. But then again we are all different.

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    it depends on the Lab and the method of testing used. both deca and tren can actually throw a false positive on estrogen readings on some lab work and not effect test at all. with the better lab tests , only test should show up as test.

    deca and tren are derivatives of PROGESTERONE .. they are both Nandrolone

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    WestWard Cyp

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    Is it safe to say that based of the blood work the Tren is not bunk?? Haven’t been getting the bad sides or Big strength gains. Was a little concerned.

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    I'm sure the Tren is legit, its rarely faked. only way to really be certain if Tren is legit from a normal blood test is to NOT be taking any other compound besides the Tren and then see where your LH and FSH fall (however if your Tren is faked with Test prop, the results will be the same)

    bloodwork is to check on our health factors and see what things we need to adjust or supplement with, more then it is to see if your gear is legit or not

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    Gotcha. I really appreciate everyone’s input

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    I'm totally mind f*cked right now.. So what you guys are telling me is that my total testosterone count on my bloods is ONLY from the Test I'm running??
    Sh*t if that's the case I have some good Test lol.
    One last thing to clarify please... (and don't mean to hijack thread but a lot of us can learn from these questions) Dead Lift you said Deca can give a false testosterone reading...Being that Tren is also a form of nandrolone , couldn't is also give false reading. I know Gear you said yes on the estrogen, but no go on the test reading??
    Sorry guys I'm just really taken a back by this cause I've had crazy high Test readings and my people told me that's the Tren giving me such high readings but according to what you guys are saying it's ONLY from the test...?

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    Body composition really hasn’t changed much during this cycle. I really wonder if my Tren is bunk. Is it possible that my receptors just don’t respond to this steroid ?? I hear all these stories about how amazing Tren is but I haven’t seen the results yet. I’m jealous.

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