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    Third Cycle - Lean Bulk

    Hi guys, I want to do a lean bulk cycle.

    Stats:
    Age: 40
    Height: 6.1
    Weight: 198 lbs
    BF: around 10% to 13%

    Two cycles under my belt, first was Test e 250 mg for 10 weeks, second Test E 500 mg for 16 weeks
    Currently I'm cruising at 125 mg Test E every 5 days

    These are the only compounds that I will use

    Test E (250 mg)
    Test Prop (100 mg)
    Dbol (10 mg)
    Stanozolol (10 mg)
    Proviron (25 mg)
    Adex
    HCG

    My goal is to add 11 lbs of lean body mass.

    I was thinking on something like this
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol(low dose), Proviron
    Weeks 1-8: Test E 750 mg, Adex 0.5 mg eod
    Weeks 8-12: Test Prop 100 mg. EOD, Stanozolol(low dose), Proviron, Adex 0.5 mg three times a week

    HCG will be used at 250 mg eod during cycle

    So what do u think? Any suggestion will be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Avgvstvs View Post
    Hi guys, I want to do a lean bulk cycle.

    Stats:
    Age: 40
    Height: 6.1
    Weight: 198 lbs
    BF: around 10% to 13%

    Two cycles under my belt, first was Test e 250 mg for 10 weeks, second Test E 500 mg for 16 weeks
    Currently I'm cruising at 125 mg Test E every 5 days

    These are the only compounds that I will use

    Test E (250 mg)
    Test Prop (100 mg)
    Dbol (10 mg)
    Stanozolol (10 mg)
    Proviron (25 mg)
    Adex
    HCG

    My goal is to add 11 lbs of lean body mass.

    I was thinking on something like this
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol(low dose), Proviron
    Weeks 1-8: Test E 750 mg, Adex 0.5 mg eod
    Weeks 8-12: Test Prop 100 mg. EOD, Stanozolol(low dose), Proviron, Adex 0.5 mg three times a week

    HCG will be used at 250 mg eod during cycle

    So what do u think? Any suggestion will be appreciated.
    I would stay with test E. I really do not see any benefit in changing to a short ester. Alex seems a little high. I would start with .25 EOD. I am just afraid that you will crash your e2.
    You can do a recomp that will decrease body fat. I would leave out the stanzolol and focus on diet. Was that injectable or oral? hCG 250 two times per week just to keep the boys working.
    Not sure what a low dose of dbol is..... its all relative. I would also diminish the dbol so you do not lose the gains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I would stay with test E. I really do not see any benefit in changing to a short ester. Alex seems a little high. I would start with .25 EOD. I am just afraid that you will crash your e2.
    You can do a recomp that will decrease body fat. I would leave out the stanzolol and focus on diet. Was that injectable or oral? hCG 250 two times per week just to keep the boys working.
    Not sure what a low dose of dbol is..... it’s all relative. I would also diminish the dbol so you do not lose the gains.


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    Hi charger69.
    By low dose of Dbol and Winny I mean 10 mg/day of each. That's close to the prescription dose (all the substances I'll use are pharma grade). Also this is my first time with Dbol, Winny and Proviron . I need to experiment with them. Obviosuly if I fell nothing I'll up the dosages.

    Regarding to switching to Test Prop/Winny at week 8 is in order to avoid the sticking point, but also because I've read that Prop is dryer than Test E.

    You can do a recomp that will decrease body fat.
    Could u tell me more about it?

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    Every cycle is a "lean bulk" cycle. I've never heard of anyone wanting to do a "fat bulk" cycle.

    Just run Test Prop and drop Test E. With Test Prop you don't need to front load so you can drop the Dbol also. Add 200mg/wk of Mast and you'll lean bulk.

    Watch your diet as that will be a large contributor to your gains. Test improves your protein synthesis so you should up your good carbs and protein.

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    It is hard to argue with Scotch with his looks and age. Hell, hes the one that sent me down the road to lean bulking. I would like to offer some variance.
    When most people bulk, they get up to 18-20% bf. This is not necessary. I love mast but for cutting.
    I think that test and NPP is great for lean bulking. This will require more attention to diet and then adjust the cardio for the bf than Scotch s.
    I personally do not take any oil that I use for cutting when bulking.
    Everyone has their own preference and reacts differently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Every cycle is a "lean bulk" cycle. I've never heard of anyone wanting to do a "fat bulk" cycle.

    Just run Test Prop and drop Test E. With Test Prop you don't need to front load so you can drop the Dbol also. Add 200mg/wk of Mast and you'll lean bulk.

    Watch your diet as that will be a large contributor to your gains. Test improves your protein synthesis so you should up your good carbs and protein.
    Hi Sctoch,

    The only reason I try to avoid Test Prop for more than four weeks is because the pinning frequency.
    Masteron is unavailable for me, I just use pharma grade products.

    What do u think on doing 750 mg of a mix between Test E and Test Prop and just pin twice a week? Plus adding very low dose of winny as a kickstart and use Proviron as finisher.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Avgvstvs View Post
    Hi Sctoch,

    The only reason I try to avoid Test Prop for more than four weeks is because the pinning frequency.
    Masteron is unavailable for me, I just use pharma grade products.

    What do u think on doing 750 mg of a mix between Test E and Test Prop and just pin twice a week? Plus adding very low dose of winny as a kickstart and use Proviron as finisher.?
    You should start your own thread. Just run Test E. There's no long term benefit of running both Test E and Test P. If you want to run an oral pick one. I wouldn't run two orals in one cycle. I don't think the gains are worth the liver hazard.

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