Adding tren

**Luttrj** · 03-21-2018, 10:37 AM

I'm aware that some have said save the tren for a later cycle. However, I'm going through with adding it to this cycle if test cyp and anavar . I'm on my 5th week of 250 cyp e4d and my first full week of var. I had started at 80mg of var but have had to back it down to 60mg.

I'm not wanting any crazy amount of tren ace added but rather a mild amount. That being said, is 100mg/1ml EOD too much to get started with? Would you half that amount (50mg EOD)?

Also, I've read something about higher tren lower test. Should i adjust my test intake? If running 100mg of tren ace eod where should my test cyp be dosed at?
Thanks guys if you'll just answer and steer me in a safe direction to add in the tren as i want to.

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-21-2018, 11:22 AM

If you run Tren now there's a really good chance you'll experience anorgasmia. If you're determined to do it, start with 50mg/EOD. You need .25mg twice a week of caber. Make sure you control your E2 with an AI. HCG 250iu twice a week. Do a full PCT after your cycle. If you experience any sexual disorder, just give your body time to recover.

**Luttrj** · 03-21-2018, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

If you run Tren now there's a really good chance you'll experience anorgasmia. If you're determined to do it, start with 50mg/EOD. You need .25mg twice a week of caber. Make sure you control your E2 with an AI. HCG 250iu twice a week. Do a full PCT after your cycle. If you experience any sexual disorder, just give your body time to recover.

Thanks.
I failed to mention that i do currently take adex e4d with no current problems. Also take 250iu of hcg e4d when i pin test.
With tren , do i need to adjust the test doseage from 250mg e4d?

**ScotchGuard02** · 03-21-2018, 11:36 AM

When I run Tren , I take a lower Test dosage. Say, about 250mg/wk. I'm just trying to maintain my Test level while the Tren does the work. You can drop your Test a little but if your body's used to the Test level, I wouldn't change anything. The more variables you add to your cycle, greater the potential for sides.

**Luttrj** · 03-21-2018, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

When I run Tren, I take a lower Test dosage. Say, about 250mg/wk. I'm just trying to maintain my Test level while the Tren does the work. You can drop your Test a little but if your body's used to the Test level, I wouldn't change anything. The more variables you add to your cycle, greater the potential for sides.

I'm on TRT at 250mg once a week. I bumped it up 5 weeks ago to 250mg e4d

My natural test is 132ng/dl with no TRT so im nearly a woman LoL

**cousinmuscles** · 03-21-2018, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Luttrj

Thanks.
I failed to mention that i do currently take adex e4d with no current problems. Also take 250iu of hcg e4d when i pin test.
With tren, do i need to adjust the test doseage from 250mg e4d?

I don't mean to pick on you but before you make the decision to take tren just get bloods and dial in your test/AI dose and don't assume. I remember your threads and you haven't dialed in anything except for guesswork

Also the timing is off mate, your test should kick in by now. You add acetate ester compound now it will take a while for it to build up and kick in, the half life is 1.5 days so if cypionate takes 5+ weeks for you acetate will take at least a week more like 2, you're now at week 7+ with only a couple weeks before your body has saturated and there are no more gains to be made... With some experience you'll know the timing for you and you will have a reference point for AI/estrogen. On top of that why spend expensive tren Ace to lose some fat when you can do that off cycle and not be in a caloric deficit on cycle and cut yourself short of gains...

**kelkel** · 03-21-2018, 12:25 PM

Save tren for your next cycle. If you're not making sufficient gains off test and var then you have to look at nutrition and training as the issue. Not adding more drugs.

**Luttrj** · 03-21-2018, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Save tren for your next cycle. If you're not making sufficient gains off test and var then you have to look at nutrition and training as the issue. Not adding more drugs.

Totally agree. I'm now beginning to feel like a bear in the gym. My issue is that i had broke my scaphoid bone (wrist) almost 2 years ago which required surgery and a bone-graft. I'm drastically weaker on my right side due to that wrist and lack about 25% flexibility. So my right wrist is retarding my growth overall. I've actually made night and day gains in the amount of weight that i can lift with it but I'm trying to be smart and not throw up what i could when i was super strong abd 25. More of a gradual process than i realized honestly