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    First cycle consult. (Status, Lab values, and Compounds are in the post)

    Hello,

    I waited 3 years to start my first cycle.
    Age: 24 and 6 months. Male
    Weight: 155 pounds
    Height: 5"5
    Bodyfat % is around 12% abs are visiable
    Clean diet
    Training has been for 6 years

    Labs:
    Name Value Reference Range
    Testosterone , Serum 506 264-916 ng/dL
    Free Testosterone(Direct) 8.4 9.3-26.5 pg/mL
    Glucose, Serum 73 70-110 mg/dL
    BUN 31 7-25 mg/dl
    Creatinine, Serum 0.90 0.70-1.40 mg/dL
    eGFR If NonAfricn Am
    eGFR If Africn Am
    BUN/Creatinine Ratio 34 5-35
    Sodium, Serum 141 133-143 MMOL/L
    Potassium, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.1 mmol/L
    Chloride, Serum 105 98-108 mmol/L
    Carbon Dioxide, Total 30.0 21.0-32.0 mmol/L
    Calcium, Serum 9.2 8.3-10.0 mg/dL
    Protein, Total, Serum 7.4 6.2-8.3 g/dL
    Albumin, Serum 4.1 3.4-5.0 g/dl
    Globulin, Total 3.3 1.0-4.5 g/dL
    A/G Ratio 1.2
    Bilirubin, Total 0.3 0.00-1.0 mg/dL
    Alkaline Phosphatase, S 63 45-117 U/L
    AST (SGOT) 37 12-42 U/L
    ALT (SGPT) 53 12-78 U/L
    Cholesterol, Total 194 0-199 mg/dL
    Triglycerides 75 30-200 mg/dL
    HDL Cholesterol 54 40-60 mg/dL
    VLDL Cholesterol Cal 15 5-40 mg/dL
    LDL Cholesterol Calc 125 0-99 mg/dL

    First cycle:

    aromasin (12.5) or arimidex (0.5), on mon, wed, fri,

    • Test (400mg) for 4 weeks injection then 8 weeks of (500mg)

    • Vitam C , every day, once a day

    HCG 1(500) twice a week on week 11,12,13,14 totoal=1000 a week

    PCT total time is 6 weeks. PCT starts week 14

    clomid 50 mg for 4 weeks and 25mg for 2 weeks every day
    nolvadex 40 mg for 2 weeks then 20mg for 4 weeks every day.

    Questions:
    What else is needed?
    Do I need to donate blood to decrese the hemoglobin levels to prevent clotting?
    My biggest goal is to look great for the summer even though the ultimate goal is to look great all year around
    Should I run HCG during cycle? what are the doses?
    Is a 16 week cycle benefits out weight the risks? My cycle is 12 weeks excluding PCT
    Is 6 weeks PCT long?
    Is it ok if I take one aromasin(12.5) and the other day arimidex(0.5).

    My biggest goal is to look great for the summer even though the ultimate goal is to look great all year around.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman24 View Post
    Hello,
    Questions:
    What else is needed?
    This is a really great post to plan your first cycle.
    https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rst-cycle.html


    Do I need to donate blood to decrese the hemoglobin levels to prevent clotting?
    It's the hematocrit that you should be looking at. I donate blood when my level gets too high.

    My biggest goal is to look great for the summer even though the ultimate goal is to look great all year around
    You're starting at the right time. I would recommend you run an 8 week Test Prop cycle. It's faster than a Test E cycle but you might get a little more acne. Make sure you wash with anti-acne body wash everyday.

    Should I run HCG during cycle? what are the doses?
    Yes, 250iu twice a week.

    Is a 16 week cycle benefits out weight the risks? My cycle is 12 weeks excluding PCT
    16 weeks cycle + 2 weeks rest + 4 week PCT is 5 and a half months if you want to look good for summer, run a shorter 8 week Test Prop cycle

    Is 6 weeks PCT long?
    4 weeks is good enough

    Is it ok if I take one aromasin (12.5) and the other day arimidex (0.5).
    Pick one and stick with it.

    My biggest goal is to look great for the summer even though the ultimate goal is to look great all year around.
    Thank you!
    Your diet will determine how you will look after your cycle. Work up a clean diet. I see guys put as their diet "eating clean" but most guys don't even know what that means. Really, go through the diet section and work up a good diet and post it for comment.

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    Good stuff by Scotch.
    No need to start at 400 then bump it up. Just start at 500.
    I'm more concerned that your free T is low at your age. Would have been nice to have your shbg level, which is probably higher causing this.
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    Thank you so much for the responses. all comments noted!

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    Aromasin doesn't work as arimidex . Aromasin needs to be taken once per day minimum. Check this thread for info https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...rdosed-ai.html

    Aim to keep stable levels of estrogen so smaller doses of any AI will have you feeling better than rollercoaster rides every week.

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    Great point! Thank you so much

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