Running a heavy cycle any thoughts???

[SpareSomeGains?]

24 yrs.
5'10''
185 lbs. currently
at 13.2% bf
Second cycle

Back story- So my first cycle I ran a heavy cycle for a starter back in the summer of 2016 and I realize that most likely wasn't the smartest choice. My first cycle I ran Test c, Tren a, Halotestin , HCG during cycle, and Clomid for PCT. I handled the stack well with almost no sides other than some night sweats occasionally. This was an 8 week cycle which is fairly short, but I didn't want to go long on a heavy cycle. I did months of research and had done plenty of prohormones previously and wanted to give my liver a break. I also study exercise for my major and graduate this year.

Anyways fast forward to now. I pinned today with a mix called Shredderum 150, it's test prop, tren a, and Mast prop. 2ml eod for 8 weeks. I'm also taking adrol 60mg every day, winny 25mg everyday, and Aromasin 10mg for 30 days. Mestanolone (STS-646) 30mg every other day for the 8 weeks. I'm Taking NAC as a liver support and lots of fish oils and fatty foods like avocados. I'm going to take HCG a week after I start and run that for 6 weeks or start after two weeks I have yet to decide. I also have clomid for my PCT and possibly hcg with that as well. I don't plan to run another stack anytime soon but wanted this boost to get to where I wanted to be this summer. I'm doing high reps high sets low weight to take it easy on my joints this time around and to really cut and work muscular endurance.

[GearHeaded]

completely unnecessary what you've done and are doing considering your stats. Tren and Halo on a first cycle, lol, I know of Pro's who won't even run that combo for contest prep.

[SpareSomeGains?]

I realize it was a hard first cycle, I loved the results I had from it though. I had hella gains and bulked up like crazy. Have you seen of or heard of a stack similar to this or harder? I plan on having this as my last cycle for years. Either into my 30s or longer. I see you say its unnecessary, what would you suggest doing in my case? I'm curious to hear your input, thanks for the input already.

[GearHeaded]

I realize it was a hard first cycle, I loved the results I had from it though. I had hella gains and bulked up like crazy. Have you seen of or heard of a stack similar to this or harder? I plan on having this as my last cycle for years. Either into my 30s or longer. I see you say its unnecessary, what would you suggest doing in my case? I'm curious to hear your input, thanks for the input already.

I'm not doubting that it worked , I'm sure it worked great and you got good gains. I'm saying it was unnecessary because considering your age and stats and this being your first cycle or two, you could have gotten the exact same amount of gains with less harsh compounds.
your in a position to make a ton of gains right now just jumping on gear for the first time (if your diet and training are spot on).

let me explain -
When I jumped on test for the first time I did about 300mg per week. thats it. I put on 33 pounds in 5 months and still had a six pack. that was years ago. I've got 100s of cycles under my belt since then.

Now, just recently I just got off of a stack of 2000mg of test per week, 800 mast, 500 tren , 50mg tren suspension pre workout, 30mg Dbol , 4iu HGH, 30iu insulin .. after all that, I gained maybe 5 pounds.

so why did I gain 30 pounds off of only 300mg of test and nothing more.. yet now I run 4 grams of gear and only gain a couple pounds ?

Because when your new to Gear is when you respond the most to it. you might as well get all those gains with as little gear as possible at the start. otherwise you may end up 'de-sensitizing' yourself to more advanced gear later on and find you need more and more gear to get very little results..

if you can get gains off of just a little bit of test and maybe dbol. then just stick to that until that stops working. then add in more. then do that until that stops working.. then add in a little more, etc..

[SpareSomeGains?]

Alight, I see where you’re coming from. I’ll definitely do that and keep that in mind for the next cycle whenever that is. Unfortunately I’ve already pinned and started the cycle. At this point I feel like stopping could have some negative effects. I’ll most likely, finish the cycle and post progress pics. I by no means suggest anyone else should do this cycle (especially someone as new as myself), but now that I’ve started it I want to go through with it; seeing as I won’t do another cycle for quite a few years.

[kelkel]

seeing as I won’t do another cycle for quite a few years.

Humorous.

[GearHeaded]

well being your running a blend of test, tren , mast (thats not a bad blend) I can understand why your just going to keep going with it. but I do think you should at least drop the Andarol , its easy enough to save that for later. plus I didn't see a SERM listed in your current stack, which makes me think your not fully understanding of how Anadrol works (not running a SERM like Nolva with it may lead to gyno)

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ouncement.html

[GearHeaded]

Humorous.

I'm assuming he made a typo and meant "months" not years thats the way it usually goes

[SpareSomeGains?]

plus I didn't see a SERM listed in your current stack, which makes me think your not fully understanding of how Anadrol works (not running a SERM like Nolva with it may lead to gyno)

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...ouncement.html

I had heard about that problem with Ana drop and haven’t ran it before. I had read that running it with Mast prop was a good blend to prevent gyno. I could get a SERM but I’ve never experienced Gyno (knock on wood) and it’ll be awhile for sure maybe not ten years but it’ll be a few for sure. Also I’m no chemist by any means but I have some understanding, I’m eager to learn though!

[GearHeaded]

I had heard about that problem with Ana drop and haven’t ran it before. I had read that running it with Mast prop was a good blend to prevent gyno. I could get a SERM but I’ve never experienced Gyno (knock on wood) and it’ll be awhile for sure maybe not ten years but it’ll be a few for sure. Also I’m no chemist by any means but I have some understanding, I’m eager to learn though!

your in good company brother.. just take your time and pay attention. don't RUSH the gains. this is a marathon not a sprint

[SpareSomeGains?]

I agree it’s a marathon, I want to keep some longevity. Have you heard of mast prop preventing gyno from anadrol ???

[diesel101]

Humorous.

Yep, last cycle for a long time
Heard that before

[GearHeaded]

I agree it’s a marathon, I want to keep some longevity. Have you heard of mast prop preventing guns from anadrol???

I assume spell check took over and instead of "guns". you meant "Gyno" . of course I've heard of that.. look at my profile and my posts, I have that idea plastered all over these forums and tell guys all the time to run Masteron with 19 nor and highly estrogenic compounds because of its ability to antagonize both prolactin and estrogen receptors .

but it still don't beat running 10mg of Nolva on cycle if the compounds are e heavy and dosages are high

[SpareSomeGains?]

I assume spell check took over and instead of "guns". you meant "Gyno" . of course I've heard of that.. look at my profile and my posts, I have that idea plastered all over these forums and tell guys all the time to run Masteron with 19 nor and highly estrogenic compounds because of its ability to antagonize both prolactin and estrogen receptors .

but it still don't beat running 10mg of Nolva on cycle if the compounds are e heavy and dosages are high

I’d say for this cycle isn’t heavy with adrol, I’ve heard of guys running higher with no issues. Too bad the aromasin doesn’t help enough. I could get nolva in a matter of days if it’s prudent. With a light and short cycle does the cycle sound alright? What do you consider to be heavy and light doses?

[SpareSomeGains?]

So initially I had meant to buy var but had ordered anadrol instead. Anyways I decided to hold off on the winny and save if for the second half of the cycle to lean out it’s a low dose on each and NAC should keep my liver and kidneys good. I’m feeling great though on day three and definitely working harder in the gym and I have some extra gumption through the day. It could be a mental thing at this point but I’m looking forward to see what happens in the coming weeks.

[Eduke93]

I assume spell check took over and instead of "guns". you meant "Gyno" . of course I've heard of that.. look at my profile and my posts, I have that idea plastered all over these forums and tell guys all the time to run Masteron with 19 nor and highly estrogenic compounds because of its ability to antagonize both prolactin and estrogen receptors .

but it still don't beat running 10mg of Nolva on cycle if the compounds are e heavy and dosages are high

Sorry to jump in with such an irrelevant comment.

But this made me lol. I wouldn't mess with a gun on anadrol , thank god for mast prop.

[ghettoboyd]

so what exactly was the point of this thread?...you have been given the absolutely best advise but you will choose to run your cycle as is anyways regardless of everyone's "thoughts" even though they are all based on personal experience/knowledge...are you looking for a high five or something?...hellz yah bro!! up top man!!...there you go brotato chip...

[SpareSomeGains?]

Yeah nor would I good thing hunting season isn’t until the fall

[SpareSomeGains?]

Well I wanted to make sure that the compounds worked well together and if somehow I missed something someone would tell me otherwise. Thanks though man!!! I could drop the anadrol and winny but it’s only good for so long. It says it expires within a year I believe and as I stated I don’t plan on doing a cycle before then.

[ghettoboyd]

Well I wanted to make sure that the compounds worked well together and if somehow I missed something someone would tell me otherwise. Thanks though man!!! I could drop the anadrol and winny but it’s only good for so long. It says it expires within a year I believe and as I stated I don’t plan on doing a cycle before then.

its not like the orals are only good up until the expiration date, think about it if its still good the day before it expires then why not after?...ive used orals that had expired a year before I used them and they still worked...keep them in a cool dry place and they will be fine imho...

[Nogbad the bad]

Yep, last cycle for a long time
Heard that before

Well,to be fair to him,three months is a hell of a long time.
When i was a kid,six weeks off school in the summer,seemed to last forever!